ruby Posted August 10 Report Share Posted August 10 3 minutes ago, c_cubed51 said: Terrible figures! Let's panic and sew fear amongst the gullible! Or, let's take a sober look at the figures and stop panicking ... Small boats data This page shows figures for the last 7 days for migrants attempting to cross the English Channel in small boats without permission to enter the UK. Date Migrants arrived Boats arrived Boats involved in uncontrolled landings Notes 3 August 2026 35 1 0 4 August 2026 0 0 0 5 August 2026 0 0 0 6 August 2026 0 0 0 7 August 2026 0 0 0 8 August 2026 258 4 0 9 August 2026 423 5 0 Just 10 boats all week. A mere nine boats over the weekend. One of which carried almost four times as many as an average boat. Reckless behaviour on the part of the criminals behind the crossings. 681 arrivals is a lot less than the 950 that GBNews told us. Good fearmongering press , gleefully passed on by a gullible Lynn and John. And happily endorsed by ruby and Jessica. Let's blame the French, shall we? In an earlier post, I explained why the crossings occurred in bursts, and why the boats are getting larger and fewer. All to do with fewer opportunities and beaches caused by increased French surveillance. As well as crackdowns on criminals in volved in such activities, in Bulgaria and elsewhere in Europe. And a reminder that the bigger problem is overstayers who arrive legally in the UK and don't leave; and that this issue accounts for just 5% of illegal immigrants; and that the number of people successfully crossing is down by over 40%. Keep calm! Yes someone on the web identified the 40% reduction, it appears illegals entering France is down 40% funny that the two figures match. As to the illegals overstaying, the US has had that issue for years, I can't understand why with computers it should be an easy thing to fix. Yes perhaps the French are doing more which explains the larger size of boat or could it be a larger boat generates more profits plus less people needed to control them. Trouble with the Home Office they are like Burnham, they like to pick the low hanging fruit. So someone who has a job here, lived here for 20 years, forgets to fill in a form and they are targeted. The paper is full of them. They are not the issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowlf Posted August 10 Report Share Posted August 10 1 minute ago, c_cubed51 said: Terrible figures! Let's panic and sew fear amongst the gullible! Or, let's take a sober look at the figures and stop panicking ... Small boats data This page shows figures for the last 7 days for migrants attempting to cross the English Channel in small boats without permission to enter the UK. Date Migrants arrived Boats arrived Boats involved in uncontrolled landings Notes 3 August 2026 35 1 0 4 August 2026 0 0 0 5 August 2026 0 0 0 6 August 2026 0 0 0 7 August 2026 0 0 0 8 August 2026 258 4 0 9 August 2026 423 5 0 Just 10 boats all week. A mere nine boats over the weekend. One of which carried almost four times as many as an average boat. Reckless behaviour on the part of the criminals behind the crossings. 681 arrivals is a lot less than the 950 that GBNews told us. Good fearmongering press , gleefully passed on by a gullible Lynn and John. And happily endorsed by ruby and Jessica. Let's blame the French, shall we? In an earlier post, I explained why the crossings occurred in bursts, and why the boats are getting larger and fewer. All to do with fewer opportunities and beaches caused by increased French surveillance. As well as crackdowns on criminals in volved in such activities, in Bulgaria and elsewhere in Europe. And a reminder that the bigger problem is overstayers who arrive legally in the UK and don't leave; and that this issue accounts for just 5% of illegal immigrants; and that the number of people successfully crossing is down by over 40%. Keep calm! What about the whiney butts that knowing this is bad for your country, allow it to continue? You can't blame France or anyone else. The leader Andy, whoever elected him, obviously doesn't care what you think. I remember back in the day all you libs were the compassionate ones, saying all these illegals were just the downtrodden looking a safe haven. Now with the downtrodden being 95%+ military aged males, the worm has turned. And the subsequent results are obvious. If you want to survive, you must quit voting for bennies and start voting for the people of your country. And that includes you. It's not a crime to claim your place under the Sun that those that came before you, fought and died for. Do you have the 'will'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c_cubed51 Posted August 10 Author Report Share Posted August 10 1 hour ago, rowlf said: If you want to survive, you must quit voting for bennies and start voting for the people of your country. And that includes you. It's not a crime to claim your place under the Sun that those that came before you, fought and died for. Do you have the 'will'? Look in the mirror, rowlf. Remind us again why you have that gun on your bedstand! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c_cubed51 Posted August 10 Author Report Share Posted August 10 1 hour ago, ruby said: As to the illegals overstaying, the US has had that issue for years, I can't understand why with computers it should be an easy thing to fix. The UK, too. Why do you think the authorities haven't been able to find those athletes who went AWOL? Computers don't make the issue any easier to deal with. 1 hour ago, ruby said: Trouble with the Home Office they are like Burnham, they like to pick the low hanging fruit. So someone who has a job here, lived here for 20 years, forgets to fill in a form and they are targeted. The paper is full of them. They are not the issue. You don't understand the problem. Overstayers are the problem. They don't "forget" to fill in a form. It's 95% of the issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkler Posted August 10 Report Share Posted August 10 1 hour ago, rowlf said: It's not a crime to claim your place under the Sun that those that came before you, fought and died for. Do you have the 'will'? Those who came before? You mean those guys who trump called “suckers and losers”? Those guys who fought fascists, fascists like you and your ilk? Those guys who fought against people who victimised minorities, foreigners and anyone who wasn’t white? Sound familiar? Hypocrite! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruby Posted August 10 Report Share Posted August 10 7 minutes ago, c_cubed51 said: The UK, too. Why do you think the authorities haven't been able to find those athletes who went AWOL? Computers don't make the issue any easier to deal with. You don't understand the problem. Overstayers are the problem. They don't "forget" to fill in a form. It's 95% of the issue. Yes but the ones that get targeted are the easy ones, generally because they live in a fixed address and easier to find. Most overstayers more around a lot so it gets difficult but unless they are doing work "cash in hand" they can be found. The issue is most time the Home Office seems not to bother, as I say just picking the easy option where they don't have to move away from the computer. There are cases were one gets arrested by the Police found to be overstayed and the Home Office just don't turn up. Either way deflecting the argument is not going to dismiss those that come in on the boats. At least with someone that overstays you know a little bit about them as they had to pass through immigration on their way in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowlf Posted August 10 Report Share Posted August 10 35 minutes ago, c_cubed51 said: Look in the mirror, rowlf. Remind us again why you have that gun on your bedstand! It's something you can't answer about your own country. But you sure as hell know about what's wrong with the US. You're a poster boy for what is going on in the world today. For the time being, you're being allowed to go your own way................... as long as your 'way' isn't too far out of line, I believe that illegal immigration will stop when the time comes for it to stop, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkler Posted August 10 Report Share Posted August 10 1 hour ago, rowlf said: You're a poster boy for what is going on in the world today. Cubed isn’t cheering on the chaos, Murder, death and destruction across the world caused by the USA. Starting a pointless war Tearing up trade agreements Pointless tariffs Killing kids by removing aid programs Killing kids with missiles Killing civilians Imprisoning US citizens without charge of trial There’s plenty more… I’m sure you are proud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c_cubed51 Posted August 11 Author Report Share Posted August 11 (edited) 16 hours ago, ruby said: At least with someone that overstays you know a little bit about them as they had to pass through immigration on their way in. Perhaps. Where are those missing athletes, who passed through immigration? Did they 'forget to fill in a form'? Or did they deliberately turn off their phones before disappearing? Where are the Ugandan boxers? Four are latest athletes to vanish after UK sports events | Boxing | The Guardian The problem with those crossing in boats is that they, too, deliberately 'forget to bring their ID documents with them'. It's a huge issue, I agree. Still, some would argue that the present government IS doing something effective about it. (Opinion piece). Voices: Shabana Mahmood is getting it right on stopping the boats The crucial point is to focus on the numbers of people arriving by all irregular routes. This is falling, as is lawful migration for that matter. The lurid headlines, spurious claims by extremist politicians and dramatic images are all misleading. Edited August 11 by c_cubed51 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c_cubed51 Posted August 11 Author Report Share Posted August 11 (edited) 13 hours ago, rowlf said: You're a poster boy for what is going on in the world today. Agreed. As stated, I am a Street Pastor. Homelessness and street violence are huge problems in the USA, I believe. Are you doing anything about these things? How about starting a chapter in your area? Just Google 'Street Pastors (your area). Or speak to your own church leaders. People our age find meaning in their lives, helping others as I do. Street Pastors in the USA maintain a highly localized presence, operating in only a select few cities such as Bangor, Maine, and Chico, California. These interdenominational Christian volunteers patrol downtown areas at night to provide practical assistance, care, and a safe presence without actively proselytizing. [1, 2, 3, 4] The Street Pastors network, an initiative of the Ascension Trust, has expanded internationally but remains primarily a UK-based phenomenon. In the United States, participation is heavily community-driven. For instance, the Greater Bangor Area Street Pastors—representing over ten local churches—patrol downtown Bangor on Friday nights from 9:00 PM to 1:30 AM to assist with practical kindness. [1, 2, 3, 4] Because the movement is not widespread across the US, each chapter operates independently, relying on local volunteer recruitment and church partnerships. [1, 2] If you are looking to get involved or need assistance in a specific area, tell me: Are you located near Bangor, Maine or Chico, California? Are you interested in becoming a volunteer or in starting a local chapter? I can provide the exact contact details or training steps tailored to your location. Edited August 11 by c_cubed51 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nylonlegaddict Posted August 11 Report Share Posted August 11 On 30/07/2026 at 20:29, Love All Nylon said: Let's all celebrate then - so the above numbers make it all okay do they? And, yet again, insulting someone because they don't have your view or have incorrect data to hand. The point is, zero boats arriving is what we need and must achieve in some way or other. exactly right mate he's a typical lefty he just insults and abuses everyone who doesnt agree with his views 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkler Posted August 11 Report Share Posted August 11 2 hours ago, c_cubed51 said: Agreed. As stated, I am a Street Pastor. Homelessness and street violence are huge problems in the USA, I believe. Are you doing anything about these things? How about starting a chapter in your area? Just Google 'Street Pastors (your area). Or speak to your own church leaders. People our age find meaning in their lives, helping others as I do. Street Pastors in the USA maintain a highly localized presence, operating in only a select few cities such as Bangor, Maine, and Chico, California. These interdenominational Christian volunteers patrol downtown areas at night to provide practical assistance, care, and a safe presence without actively proselytizing. [1, 2, 3, 4] The Street Pastors network, an initiative of the Ascension Trust, has expanded internationally but remains primarily a UK-based phenomenon. In the United States, participation is heavily community-driven. For instance, the Greater Bangor Area Street Pastors—representing over ten local churches—patrol downtown Bangor on Friday nights from 9:00 PM to 1:30 AM to assist with practical kindness. [1, 2, 3, 4] Because the movement is not widespread across the US, each chapter operates independently, relying on local volunteer recruitment and church partnerships. [1, 2] If you are looking to get involved or need assistance in a specific area, tell me: Are you located near Bangor, Maine or Chico, California? Are you interested in becoming a volunteer or in starting a local chapter? I can provide the exact contact details or training steps tailored to your location. Rowlf? Care for others? Give a flying F for anyone other than himself? 😂😂😂😂🤷♂️ Fat chance! He is too busy polishing his guns! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruby Posted August 11 Report Share Posted August 11 32 minutes ago, Sparkler said: Rowlf? Care for others? Give a flying F for anyone other than himself? 😂😂😂😂🤷♂️ Fat chance! He is too busy polishing his guns! Funny I thought that was the moto of most socialists. Most are hypocrites, our present Government being a prime example. They don't like Public Schools but all send their children to them. Our present energy Minister being a prime example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynn and John Posted August 11 Report Share Posted August 11 18 hours ago, c_cubed51 said: Terrible figures! Let's panic and sew fear amongst the gullible! Or, let's take a sober look at the figures and stop panicking ... Small boats data This page shows figures for the last 7 days for migrants attempting to cross the English Channel in small boats without permission to enter the UK. Date Migrants arrived Boats arrived Boats involved in uncontrolled landings Notes 3 August 2026 35 1 0 4 August 2026 0 0 0 5 August 2026 0 0 0 6 August 2026 0 0 0 7 August 2026 0 0 0 8 August 2026 258 4 0 9 August 2026 423 5 0 Just 10 boats all week. A mere nine boats over the weekend. One of which carried almost four times as many as an average boat. Reckless behaviour on the part of the criminals behind the crossings. 681 arrivals is a lot less than the 950 that GBNews told us. Good fearmongering press , gleefully passed on by a gullible Lynn and John. And happily endorsed by ruby and Jessica. Let's blame the French, shall we? In an earlier post, I explained why the crossings occurred in bursts, and why the boats are getting larger and fewer. All to do with fewer opportunities and beaches caused by increased French surveillance. As well as crackdowns on criminals in volved in such activities, in Bulgaria and elsewhere in Europe. And a reminder that the bigger problem is overstayers who arrive legally in the UK and don't leave; and that this issue accounts for just 5% of illegal immigrants; and that the number of people successfully crossing is down by over 40%. Keep calm! GB News obviously included the migrants that arrived in the early hours of Monday morning in their weekend figure. Yes overstayers are a problem but whenever you hear about a migrant committing a serious crime they nearly always arrived in the UK via a small boat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkler Posted August 11 Report Share Posted August 11 1 minute ago, ruby said: Funny I thought that was the moto of most socialists. Most are hypocrites, our present Government being a prime example. They don't like Public Schools but all send their children to them. Our present energy Minister being a prime example. 😂😂😂😂😂 try harder next time, having a dig at “socialists” or, your favourite, “lefties”, on any of my posts is pointless. As I have stated many times, not a “leftie”, not a “socialist”, never ever voted for a left leaning party in my life! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c_cubed51 Posted August 11 Author Report Share Posted August 11 21 minutes ago, Lynn and John said: ... whenever you hear about a migrant committing a serious crime they nearly always arrived in the UK via a small boat. Perhaps, but the vast majority of serious crimes are perpetrated by persons who are either British citizens or legal residents. The Southport killer, for instance. But people like your good self never miss the opportunity to fudge the facts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynn and John Posted August 11 Report Share Posted August 11 12 minutes ago, c_cubed51 said: Perhaps, but the vast majority of serious crimes are perpetrated by persons who are either British citizens or legal residents. The Southport killer, for instance. But people like your good self never miss the opportunity to fudge the facts. We don't fudge. We write the truth. 10 August 2026 An asylum seeker who raped a 13-year-old girl after pretending to be a teenager on Snapchat has been jailed. Abdul Khan attacked the girl in a nature reserve in Clifton, Nottingham, on 14 May last year. Khan arrived in the UK in the back of a lorry in 2015, Nottingham Crown Court heard, and faces automatic deportation to Afghanistan after he has served two thirds of his sentence. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm2g97nv36go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruby Posted August 11 Report Share Posted August 11 3 minutes ago, Lynn and John said: We don't fudge. We write the truth. 10 August 2026 An asylum seeker who raped a 13-year-old girl after pretending to be a teenager on Snapchat has been jailed. Abdul Khan attacked the girl in a nature reserve in Clifton, Nottingham, on 14 May last year. Khan arrived in the UK in the back of a lorry in 2015, Nottingham Crown Court heard, and faces automatic deportation to Afghanistan after he has served two thirds of his sentence. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm2g97nv36go Our Government won't release the true figures but if we look to our neighbours in Germany that have the same issues as we do, their figures are horrendous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c_cubed51 Posted August 11 Author Report Share Posted August 11 2 minutes ago, Lynn and John said: We don't fudge. We write the truth. 10 August 2026 An asylum seeker who raped a 13-year-old girl after pretending to be a teenager on Snapchat has been jailed. Abdul Khan attacked the girl in a nature reserve in Clifton, Nottingham, on 14 May last year. Khan arrived in the UK in the back of a lorry in 2015, Nottingham Crown Court heard, and faces automatic deportation to Afghanistan after he has served two thirds of his sentence. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm2g97nv36go You deliberately obfuscate. I'm not denying that there are isolated cases like the one you cite. However, the vast majority of such heinous crime ARE committed by persons who are not illegal migrants, but who are either citizens or legal residents. People like you either distort the facts, as with the Southport killer, or you mention cases of people like Khan as though they are the norm. Jordan Petersen does the same thing in his attempts to discredit trans women. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c_cubed51 Posted August 11 Author Report Share Posted August 11 2 minutes ago, ruby said: Our Government won't release the true figures but if we look to our neighbours in Germany that have the same issues as we do, their figures are horrendous. Are they? A link, please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruby Posted August 11 Report Share Posted August 11 1 minute ago, c_cubed51 said: Are they? A link, please. I fed up repeating this, I don't provide you with links. Find it yourself like I did. Google is a wonderful tool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c_cubed51 Posted August 11 Author Report Share Posted August 11 Just now, ruby said: I fed up repeating this, I don't provide you with links. Find it yourself like I did. Google is a wonderful tool. I am able to do this - not so sure about you, though. Which is why I place the onus for proving your assertion back on you. As I said the the singular soul Lynn and John, people like you tend to fudge the facts. Prove it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessica In Heels Posted August 11 Report Share Posted August 11 (edited) 15 minutes ago, ruby said: I fed up repeating this, I don't provide you with links. Find it yourself like I did. Google is a wonderful tool. You seem to inviting a peer review of your findings, yet unwilling to share your results. To re-create your search would require your exact search criteria. So in essence all you are saying is ‘trust me bro’.. Edited August 11 by Jessica In Heels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynn and John Posted August 11 Report Share Posted August 11 13 minutes ago, c_cubed51 said: You deliberately obfuscate. I'm not denying that there are isolated cases like the one you cite. However, the vast majority of such heinous crime ARE committed by persons who are not illegal migrants, but who are either citizens or legal residents. People like you either distort the facts, as with the Southport killer, or you mention cases of people like Khan as though they are the norm. Jordan Petersen does the same thing in his attempts to discredit trans women. They are not isolated cases. The Khan case happened yesterday. It's almost a daily event reading about someone who arrived in the UK illegally being found guilty in a court for a criminal offence. There is no official figure for the number of crimes committed specifically by migrants who arrived illegally, because government bodies like the Ministry of Justice do not record criminal offences by a person's specific immigration status. We would like the Ministry of Justice to start recording the number of offences committed by migrants who arrived into the UK illegally and release weekly figures. We think you need to wake up and smell the coffee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c_cubed51 Posted August 11 Author Report Share Posted August 11 You (singular) are right, and wrong. Are asylum seekers really more likely to commit violent crime in the UK? | Immigration and asylum | The Guardian When you adjust for age and sex – important because young men are disproportionately likely to commit crime, and migrant populations tend to be younger – the share of non-citizens in prison is actually lower than the share of British citizens. (There is no publicly available data on conviction rates after adjusting for age.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynn and John Posted August 11 Report Share Posted August 11 32 minutes ago, c_cubed51 said: You (singular) are right, and wrong. Are asylum seekers really more likely to commit violent crime in the UK? | Immigration and asylum | The Guardian When you adjust for age and sex – important because young men are disproportionately likely to commit crime, and migrant populations tend to be younger – the share of non-citizens in prison is actually lower than the share of British citizens. (There is no publicly available data on conviction rates after adjusting for age.) We're not surprised that you try to justify the indefensible by digging up a liberal Guardian article that implies asylum seekers are no worse than British citizens. The fact is if there were no illegal migrants in the UK than crime figures would be much lower and the prisons would have fewer inmates meaning Andy Pandy wouldn't be in the difficult position he is about releasing prisoners early from their sentences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruby Posted August 11 Report Share Posted August 11 1 hour ago, Jessica In Heels said: You seem to inviting a peer review of your findings, yet unwilling to share your results. To re-create your search would require your exact search criteria. So in essence all you are saying is ‘trust me bro’.. You obviously don't know the history cubed normally asks for the link then trashes the results if I give it to him, so on principle I don't ever bother anymore. I don't really care if you want to do a peer review as I say the information is out there, you can do exactly what I do and search for it yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c_cubed51 Posted August 11 Author Report Share Posted August 11 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Lynn and John said: We're not surprised that you try to justify the indefensible by digging up a liberal Guardian article that implies asylum seekers are no worse than British citizens. I think you (singular) maybe meant to type that the article implies asylum seekers are less likely than British citizens to commit serious crimes. On the other hand, perhaps this is simply another instance of you deliberately trying to obfuscate. Or that you (singular) really are innumerate. Certainly, you show your bias by disclaiming the data on the basis of it's being provided by The Guardian. 26 minutes ago, Lynn and John said: The fact is if there were no illegal migrants in the UK than crime figures would be much lower and the prisons would have fewer inmates About as sensible as claiming that if there were no single people in the UK then crime figures would be much lower (by around 86% BTW) and the prisons would have fewer inmates. Illegal migrants are a fact of life, as is the presence of single people. 26 minutes ago, Lynn and John said: meaning Andy Pandy wouldn't be in the difficult position he is about releasing prisoners early from their sentences. Early prison releases: Why some prisoners are being freed after a third of their sentence - BBC News I hope you won't discount this information on the basis that the BBC is biased. Edited August 11 by c_cubed51 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c_cubed51 Posted August 11 Author Report Share Posted August 11 3 minutes ago, ruby said: You obviously don't know the history cubed normally asks for the link then trashes the results if I give it to him, so on principle I don't ever bother anymore. I don't really care if you want to do a peer review as I say the information is out there, you can do exactly what I do and search for it yourself. Actually, when ruby occasionally does manage to find credible information, I have thanked him and praised his efforts. However, ruby's research skills are notoriously poor. I will be pleased to acknowledge his data re the situation in Germany, if he can provide it, and it supports his claim. I'm not holding my breath! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowlf Posted August 11 Report Share Posted August 11 20 hours ago, Sparkler said: Those who came before? You mean those guys who trump called “suckers and losers”? Those guys who fought fascists, fascists like you and your ilk? Those guys who fought against people who victimised minorities, foreigners and anyone who wasn’t white? Sound familiar? Hypocrite! You're just wisp of putrid air. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowlf Posted August 11 Report Share Posted August 11 3 hours ago, c_cubed51 said: Perhaps, but the vast majority of serious crimes are perpetrated by persons who are either British citizens or legal residents. The Southport killer, for instance. But people like your good self never miss the opportunity to fudge the facts. Why do you champion these illegals? You're the biggest 'fact fudger' on planet Earth............ 'cept for your little buddy, maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowlf Posted August 11 Report Share Posted August 11 7 hours ago, c_cubed51 said: Agreed. As stated, I am a Street Pastor. Homelessness and street violence are huge problems in the USA, I believe. Are you doing anything about these things? How about starting a chapter in your area? Just Google 'Street Pastors (your area). Or speak to your own church leaders. People our age find meaning in their lives, helping others as I do. If you are looking to get involved or need assistance in a specific area, tell me: Are you located near Bangor, Maine or Chico, California? Are you interested in becoming a volunteer or in starting a local chapter? I can provide the exact contact details or training steps tailored to your location. Good for you that you're doing God's work. In a pacifist world maybe, that would be enough. But it's not that kind of world at all. I found this AI article. I'm not a well-read person on the scriptures, but everyone is familiar with it. I was surprised to read this. At what point does 'meek' turn to 'weak'? That's what we're talking about. You say that Trump started an illegal war. I don't know. It's a matter of perspective, and your 'go to' source for info. The reality is that Iran had the capability of firing missiles at every capital in Europe. You're not worried about that. But then again, why worry about if you were unable to retaliate. Your 'best buddy' had abandoned you. And it appears to me that you still haven't taken any interest in doing so. The orange man did you a favor. Iran has been a terrorist nation for decades, and anyone wanted to do away with them. They desire to destroy Israel. I know, the media tells you they deserve to die. But we know that's wrong, don't we? No matter, you allow people coming into your country. God knows where they come from or what they've done. Tell me again about the so-called law that makes you entertain them for a lifetime. It seems as if you want the white man to grow extinct. "The meek shall inherit the earth" is a famous Bible verse from Matthew 5:5 in the New Testament. It is part of the Sermon on the Mount, where Jesus shares the Beatitudes. [1, 2] Meaning of the Verse Strength, not weakness: The word "meek" does not mean weak. It means "strength under control," like a powerful horse that listens to its owner. Humility: It describes people who are gentle, humble, and patient. They do not use force or pride to get their way. Trust in God: Instead of fighting back or seeking revenge, the meek trust God to make things right in the end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gemmac Posted August 11 Report Share Posted August 11 Iran does not have ballistic missiles or ever had capable of hitting European capitals. Absolute bullshit. Like Vietnam, Korea, Afghanistan and others usa is in war it will never win and will leave like the place a mess. trump has told us 3 times he has destroyed all nuclear capability in Iran . That usa is the mightiest , greatest ever war machine. So good they can completely destroy something more than once. But yet we are still destroying world trade because you believe the idiot who lies and will never admit he is wrong. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c_cubed51 Posted August 11 Author Report Share Posted August 11 45 minutes ago, rowlf said: "The meek shall inherit the earth" is a famous Bible verse from Matthew 5:5 in the New Testament. It is part of the Sermon on the Mount, where Jesus shares the Beatitudes. [1, 2] Meaning of the Verse Humility: It describes people who are gentle, humble, and patient. They do not use force or pride to get their way. You think people like Agent Orange and his followers are going to inherit the earth? People who are gentle to the point of supporting those who kill schoolgirls, and innocent fishermen? People who follow those who are humble enough to believe they deserve the Nobel Peace Prize for ending eight 'phony wars' and starting one real one? People who believe patience involves shooting first and then asking questions about possible crimes? You mean people who own guns and who advocate on these pages the forceful use of weapons to shoot at illegal migrants crossing the channel? You mean prideful people who have been indoctrinated since birth to worship a piece of coloured cloth and to believe that their country is the saviour of the world? You mean MAGAts? 1 hour ago, rowlf said: It seems as if you want the white man to grow extinct. Your racism is again on full display, rowlf. Gemmac has addressed the other fallacies in your post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkler Posted August 11 Report Share Posted August 11 1 hour ago, rowlf said: You say that Trump started an illegal war. I don't know. It's a matter of perspective, and your 'go to' source for info. No it isn’t. This war isn’t even approved by your own senate or congress. It’s far beyond the allowance if the war powers act and is not legal. 1 hour ago, rowlf said: No matter, you allow people coming into your country. God knows where they come from or what they've done. Yeah, keep on telling this lie, it was a lie before and is still a lie now. But we know you love these lies. 1 hour ago, rowlf said: The orange man did you a favor. Iran has been a terrorist nation for decades, and anyone wanted to do away with them. Yes, remind us all WHY this is! Would it be anything to do with the overthrow of an elected democratic government by the USA? Would it be anything to do with the continuing action of the USA in the Middle East? LEARN some history before you open that ill informed fat gob! 2 hours ago, rowlf said: Why do you champion these illegals? You're the biggest 'fact fudger' on planet Earth............ 'cept for your little buddy, maybe. NOBODY “champions” illegals. Just another lie you repeat. Keep on telling these lies, it makes you feel worthy. 2 hours ago, rowlf said: You're just wisp of putrid air. Once more, I have shown you to be a LIAR and a HYPOCRITE and you don’t like it. Your only response, as usual, is insults. Well done, all we expect from you and your limited capacity for understanding and discussion. Is that war won yet? Is that strait open yet? Are prices “way down” yet? Did that wall ever get built? How much did Mexico pay for it? 😂😂😂😂😂 USA: clowns of the world! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowlf Posted August 11 Report Share Posted August 11 44 minutes ago, gemmac said: Iran does not have ballistic missiles or ever had capable of hitting European capitals. Absolute bullshit. Like Vietnam, Korea, Afghanistan and others usa is in war it will never win and will leave like the place a mess. trump has told us 3 times he has destroyed all nuclear capability in Iran . That usa is the mightiest , greatest ever war machine. So good they can completely destroy something more than once. But yet we are still destroying world trade because you believe the idiot who lies and will never admit he is wrong. Iran's official military doctrine has long asserted a self-imposed ballistic missile range cap of 2,000 kilometers (approx. 1,243 miles), which covers the Middle East and parts of southeastern Europe. However, recent technological advancements, space launch vehicle programs, and extended-range tests indicate a functional operational reach up to roughly 4,000 kilometers (approx. 2,500 miles). [1, 2, 3, 4] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowlf Posted August 11 Report Share Posted August 11 28 minutes ago, c_cubed51 said: You think people like Agent Orange and his followers are going to inherit the earth? People who are gentle to the point of supporting those who kill schoolgirls, and innocent fishermen? People who follow those who are humble enough to believe they deserve the Nobel Peace Prize for ending eight 'phony wars' and starting one real one? People who believe patience involves shooting first and then asking questions about possible crimes? You mean people who own guns and who advocate on these pages the forceful use of weapons to shoot at illegal migrants crossing the channel? You mean prideful people who have been indoctrinated since birth to worship a piece of coloured cloth and to believe that their country is the saviour of the world? You mean MAGAts? Your racism is again on full display, rowlf. Gemmac has addressed the other fallacies in your post. Both you and Gemmac are wrong. And neither of you will inherit the Earth if I can't. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkler Posted August 11 Report Share Posted August 11 7 minutes ago, rowlf said: Iran's official military doctrine has long asserted a self-imposed ballistic missile range cap of 2,000 kilometers (approx. 1,243 miles), which covers the Middle East and parts of southeastern Europe. However, recent technological advancements, space launch vehicle programs, and extended-range tests indicate a functional operational reach up to roughly 4,000 kilometers (approx. 2,500 miles). [1, 2, 3, 4] 😂😂😂😂😂 ”Iran’s official military doctrine” yeah cos we ALL believe that don’t we? Gullible fool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkler Posted August 11 Report Share Posted August 11 11 minutes ago, rowlf said: Iran's official military doctrine has long asserted a self-imposed ballistic missile range cap of 2,000 kilometers (approx. 1,243 miles), which covers the Middle East and parts of southeastern Europe. However, recent technological advancements, space launch vehicle programs, and extended-range tests indicate a functional operational reach up to roughly 4,000 kilometers (approx. 2,500 miles). [1, 2, 3, 4] And what’s more… try and do some research and find out how much of Europe is actually within 2000km of Iran! Even if they had a missile that could go that far! 😂😂😂😂🤡🤡🤡 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowlf Posted August 11 Report Share Posted August 11 10 minutes ago, Sparkler said: 😂😂😂😂😂 ”Iran’s official military doctrine” yeah cos we ALL believe that don’t we? Gullible fool. 7 minutes ago, Sparkler said: And what’s more… try and do some research and find out how much of Europe is actually within 2000km of Iran! Even if they had a missile that could go that far! 😂😂😂😂🤡🤡🤡 Then go back to sleep. All is right with the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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