Epigenetics and evolution

[c_cubed51]

11 hours ago, LoveShapelyLegs said:

furthermore, no one is born a eunuch.   making "men" eunuchs was one way those in power curbed men the deemed lesser, a threat, or needed as slaves.  

Well, disbelieving the Bible is consistent with your world view. The writer of the Gospel nearly 2,000 years ago clearly had a different view.

[BTW - St Paul's comments about homosexuality in Romans 1, which are often used by the alt.right to condemn gay people, have been interpreted by Sarah Rudin much as you have above, to be a cry against the practice of slave owners back then, namely to subjugate their slaves through buggery. Thus, Paul's message would have been received with joy by both Christian slave owners and Christian slaves, as a call to end the practice. See "Paul among the People", by Sarah Rudin.]

[An edit: People who use the verses in Romans 1 against gay people never seem to have read Romans 2 onwards, in which Paul repeatedly points out that all people have sinned and so cannot point the finger at others. Ursula's verse thrown at me comes to mind! Being gay is no more sinful than being fat, lazy, greedy, envious, lusty, ... etc.]

Edited September 20 by c_cubed51

[rowlf]

22 hours ago, Alteredbhoy said:

Rude and abusive sums you up. Dishonest too.

Wah! Wah! Wah!

[dappi]

On 20/09/2023 at 15:08, Alteredbhoy said:

Rude and abusive sums you up. Dishonest too.

 

2 hours ago, rowlf said:

Wah! Wah! Wah!

And that is the best, most intelligent answer rowlf can manage. He has no working brain at all.

[Sarah_Connor]

On 9/20/2023 at 12:32 PM, rowlf said:

No one on here doubts the plight of the transpeople. It's what the media tries to shove down our throats that is the issue. You and ab mumble and move this way and that way, not really saying anything. Ab said the transgender people did not initiate:

1)bisexual terlets and locker rooms

2) men competing against women

3) The use of silly pronouns

So, that leaves one more thing that I can remember.

4) does the transgender person thinks mutilation is the proper course of action to take on a child?

And if you can't or won't reply I'll leave you alone on this issue.

Please define mutilation of a child.

 

[Alteredbhoy]

2 hours ago, Sarah_Connor said:

Please define mutilation of a child.

 

Don't encourage him. He promised to stop commenting on this subject if we didn't respond to his question.

[Sarah_Connor]

50 minutes ago, Alteredbhoy said:

Don't encourage him. He promised to stop commenting on this subject if we didn't respond to his question.

He'll never stop. He is programmed to respond with inane alt-right talking points by his Russian programmer.

[Sarah_Connor]

On 9/20/2023 at 11:01 AM, LoveShapelyLegs said:

biology 101.  there are only two sexes.  male, and female.  these TWO pathways are launched as the fetus develops.  of course like anything else in nature, there are deviations, variances and mutations.  some male characteristics may not develop, or develop more so.  some female characteristics may not develop, or develop more so.  add to this ESSENTIAL BIOLOGY the further introduction of a personality in the born human -- a mind, feelings, and thoughts.  these mental functions may grasp onto the biological profile and steer the child more masculine, or feminine.  and when this child reaches the age of reason, concepts of identity and homosexuality are introduced.  

in other words, the biology is irrefutable.  the MENTAL add-on is what makes the person FEEL they may be something else.   

therefore, the deviation of male and female, call it trans or non-binary, or gay, is the manifestation of a mental condition.  

this is why trans men are not women, and never can be.  

the person who started this thread is trying to obfuscate biology with complex scientific minutia, hoping to rationalise being trans as normal.  it's not.  can never be.  

by the way ...it's funny how all this trans fascination almost always involves MEN who want to compete in women's sports, use women's bathrooms, and promote drag story hour.  you never see WOMEN wanting to play in the NFL, or use men's toilets, or want shows to parade around looking masculine.  

as more and more leading gay men are saying -- these trumped up trans men do a disservice to being a gay man.  they are really MEN with homosexual tendencies, and cannot live among testosterone driven men in a competitive world, so they built this soft facade of acting like women to cover up their MENTAL ILLNESS poor development as MEN.  

 

Biology 201.

There are a myriad of ways that organisms reproduce but by far the most common is asexual reproduction. No males, no females.
There are a number of sexes. Some Fungi for example have 36,000 sexes.
Sex is not an immutable fact. Many fish for example change their sex. 
DSD's are not deviations, variances nor mutations. They are predictable end points of a cascade of interactions between a gene, the environment (internal/external), and epigenetics.

Our brain is interwoven into every function and cell of our body. It's moot trying to discuss a human being as a bunch of parts as if the brain were somehow irrelevant to that person. You could look at a cadaver and say that it was female because you observed a uterus.  However you could not tell the gender of that person, the conscious reality of that person, who they are, what they thought, voted for, felt.... . Given we are social animals that  have evolved very complex social structures it's ridiculous to not consider these social constructions in any discussion about gender.

All life is the manifestation of a mental condition. I think therefore I am. 

QID.

 

[rowlf]

5 hours ago, Sarah_Connor said:

Please define mutilation of a child.
 

Dammit Penny, you know as well as I do. Why don't you tell us what it isn't? You and your ilk should be ashamed of yourselves for going along with this. But when the Giant Talking Head deems it so, it must be so.

[rowlf]

1 hour ago, Sarah_Connor said:

Biology 201.

There are a myriad of ways that organisms reproduce but by far the most common is asexual reproduction. No males, no females.
There are a number of sexes. Some Fungi for example have 36,000 sexes.
Sex is not an immutable fact. Many fish for example change their sex. 
DSD's are not deviations, variances nor mutations. They are predictable end points of a cascade of interactions between a gene, the environment (internal/external), and epigenetics.

Our brain is interwoven into every function and cell of our body. It's moot trying to discuss a human being as a bunch of parts as if the brain were somehow irrelevant to that person. You could look at a cadaver and say that it was female because you observed a uterus.  However you could not tell the gender of that person, the conscious reality of that person, who they are, what they thought, voted for, felt.... . Given we are social animals that  have evolved very complex social structures it's ridiculous to not consider these social constructions in any discussion about gender.

All life is the manifestation of a mental condition. I think therefore I am. 

QID.

Hallelujah, brother! You finally got it right! Just keep the life changing drugs and the scalpels alone. Most certainly leave the children alone. For everything there is a season. And every purpose under Heaven.

Say it ain't so, Joe!

[rowlf]

3 hours ago, Sarah_Connor said:

He'll never stop. He is programmed to respond with inane alt-right talking points by his Russian programmer.

Not even close. The truth shall set you free.

[Alteredbhoy]

43 minutes ago, rowlf said:

Dammit Penny, you know as well as I do. Why don't you tell us what it isn't? You and your ilk should be ashamed of yourselves for going along with this. But when the Giant Talking Head deems it so, it must be so.

That's why it is worthless asking rowlf to explain his views. He can't. When asked what HE understands by child mutilation, he is unable to say, so resorts to asking what YOU understand by it.

HE is the one who keeps mentioning child mutilation but he won't or can't tell anyone what HE means. Instead he asks others what they mean, so that (if they answer) he can tell them that they are wrong and he is right. Even though he does not know what HE means, he knows he is right, because he hasn't been told the answer by a "giant talking head". And he knows the other person will be wrong because they said it and not him (even though he does not know what they will say).

All anyone needs to know is that there is no scope in rowlf's mind for him to be wrong on anything. Even if he has no knowledge or experience in a subject, he will always be right because his gut tells him so.

And everyone else will be wrong because no matter how much experience or knowledge they have, they have been manipulated by the giant talking head, or MSM, or China. He believes everyone should listen to his (rowlf's) gut, because it is always right even when it is totally ignorant about the subject under discussion.

[rowlf]

1 hour ago, Alteredbhoy said:

That's why it is worthless asking rowlf to explain his views. He can't. When asked what HE understands by child mutilation, he is unable to say, so resorts to asking what YOU understand by it.

HE is the one who keeps mentioning child mutilation but he won't or can't tell anyone what HE means. Instead he asks others what they mean, so that (if they answer) he can tell them that they are wrong and he is right. Even though he does not know what HE means, he knows he is right, because he hasn't been told the answer by a "giant talking head". And he knows the other person will be wrong because they said it and not him (even though he does not know what they will say).

All anyone needs to know is that there is no scope in rowlf's mind for him to be wrong on anything. Even if he has no knowledge or experience in a subject, he will always be right because his gut tells him so.

And everyone else will be wrong because no matter how much experience or knowledge they have, they have been manipulated by the giant talking head, or MSM, or China. He believes everyone should listen to his (rowlf's) gut, because it is always right even when it is totally ignorant about the subject under discussion.

The obvious truth here, that is not within your body is that you make it so easy to disagree with you. There's too many 'no brainer' issues that need not be debated. Why in God's name would you want to castrate a young man. Or remove the breasts of a young girl? Or administer life changing drugs that would change the physical properties of their bodies forever? I image it would affect a young man's penis size and possibly a girl's breast size. Not to mention many other afflictions to the body. Why should we do this to our children just because the powers that be promote this? Yet you're told to allow the children to make these decisions. These are the very same children that are unable to take out the garbage. It's also the very same children that we are unwilling/unable to educate. This is an example of what is taught in our schools. In the US the proficiency level of 4th graders in reading and math is less than 30%. And the spending on education is skyrocketing. Yet the thrust of our education efforts continues to be the 'quizzing' of children on what sex they think they are. Do you actually believe this is in the best interests of our children. Do you think the people that tell you to be concerned about these things gives a didly damn about your children, your community, your personal well-being? Absolutely not! It's designed to divide us.

This book is in our schools at this time.

https://theiowastandard.com/shocking-images-from-book-gender-queer-which-is-stocked-in-school-libraries-across-iowa/

[Alteredbhoy]

19 minutes ago, rowlf said:

The obvious truth here, that is not within your body is that you make it so easy to disagree with you. There's too many 'no brainer' issues that need not be debated. Why in God's name would you want to castrate a young man. Or remove the breasts of a young girl? Or administer life changing drugs that would change the physical properties of their bodies forever? I image it would affect a young man's penis size and possibly a girl's breast size. Not to mention many other afflictions to the body. Why should we do this to our children just because the powers that be promote this? Yet you're told to allow the children to make these decisions. These are the very same children that are unable to take out the garbage. It's also the very same children that we are unwilling/unable to educate. This is an example of what is taught in our schools. In the US the proficiency level of 4th graders in reading and math is less than 30%. And the spending on education is skyrocketing. Yet the thrust of our education efforts continues to be the 'quizzing' of children on what sex they think they are. Do you actually believe this is in the best interests of our children. Do you think the people that tell you to be concerned about these things gives a didly damn about your children, your community, your personal well-being? Absolutely not! It's designed to divide us.

This book is in our schools at this time.

https://theiowastandard.com/shocking-images-from-book-gender-queer-which-is-stocked-in-school-libraries-across-iowa/

You promised not to discuss these issues if I did not answer your question. I did not answer your question, but you subject me to your nonsensical, knee jerk  and ignorant views anyway. You are clearly not a man who sticks to his promises.

But just to be clear, you refer to mutilation, referring I presume to surgery, and in your pointless diatribe comment that children are unable to make this decision. However my understanding is that very few children (if any) are subject to this surgery. And if they are it is only with extensive consultations between the child, the parents/guardians and the medical professionals.

Of course your over inflated sense of your own intellect tells you that despite not knowing the child and its circumstances, you are better placed to determine its medical care than the child, it's parents/guardians and the medical professionals.

You don't really care about the child at all. All you want is for a blanket ban on the process of transition because you view it as abnormal.

Edited September 22 by Alteredbhoy

[rowlf]

35 minutes ago, Alteredbhoy said:

You promised not to discuss these issues if I did not answer your question. I did not answer your question, but you subject me to your nonsensical, knee jerk  and ignorant views anyway. You are clearly not a man who sticks to his promises.

But just to be clear, you refer to mutilation, referring I presume to surgery, and in your pointless diatribe comment that children are unable to make this decision. However my understanding is that very few children (if any) are subject to this surgery. And if they are it is only with extensive consultations between the child, the parents/guardians and the medical professionals.

Of course your over inflated sense of your own intellect tells you that despite not knowing the child and its circumstances, you are better placed to determine its medical care than the child, it's parents/guardians and the medical professionals.

You don't really care about the child at all. All you want is for a blanket ban on the process of transition because you view it as abnormal.

I didn't 'presume' anything. Another just plain old simple silly weak pathetic answer to hide your own sorryness.

The question I put to you is why you want this to happen so strongly?

[dappi]

10 minutes ago, rowlf said:

I didn't 'presume' anything. Another just plain old simple silly weak pathetic answer to hide your own sorryness.

The question I put to you is why you want this to happen so strongly?

But he doesn't want it Bigly.

[Alteredbhoy]

2 hours ago, rowlf said:

I didn't 'presume' anything. Another just plain old simple silly weak pathetic answer to hide your own sorryness.

The question I put to you is why you want this to happen so strongly?

You presume that I want children to undergo surgery. I don't know why you presume that. I presume it is because you are stupid and have been told by Fox News that that is the case. I don't want children (or adults for that matter) to have to undergo any surgery. But sometimes it is necessary. That's life.

Refusing surgery to someone, who requires it to treat a medical condition, for anything other than medical reasons is barbaric. To refuse surgery to a child who requires and wants the surgery and whose parents and doctors advocate the surgery because a person who does not know their circumstances is opposed to it on philosophical grounds is also wrong. But then you are wrong about many things.

[dappi]

2 minutes ago, Alteredbhoy said:

You presume that I want children to undergo surgery. I don't know why you presume that. I presume it is because you are stupid and have been told by Fox News that that is the case. I don't want children (or adults for that matter) to have to undergo any surgery. But sometimes it is necessary. That's life.

Refusing surgery to someone, who requires it to treat a medical condition, for anything other than medical reasons is barbaric. To refuse surgery to a child who requires and wants the surgery and whose parents and doctors advocate the surgery because a person who does not know their circumstances is opposed to it on philosophical grounds is also wrong. But then you are wrong about many things.

I sometimes think that I could agree with rowlf but then we would both be wrong...

[rowlf]

11 minutes ago, Alteredbhoy said:

You presume that I want children to undergo surgery. I don't know why you presume that. I presume it is because you are stupid and have been told by Fox News that that is the case. I don't want children (or adults for that matter) to have to undergo any surgery. But sometimes it is necessary. That's life.

Refusing surgery to someone, who requires it to treat a medical condition, for anything other than medical reasons is barbaric. To refuse surgery to a child who requires and wants the surgery and whose parents and doctors advocate the surgery because a person who does not know their circumstances is opposed to it on philosophical grounds is also wrong. But then you are wrong about many things.

But should it be a national debate?

[Alteredbhoy]

50 minutes ago, rowlf said:

But should it be a national debate?

Oh FFS.

You are the one who keeps raising it. You are the one who states categorically that it should not happen. You are the one who wants the law to disregard the wishes of the child, the wishes of the parents and the advice of the medical profession.

And now you ask whether it should be a national debate?

You argue for individual freedom, free from Government interference. But on this issue, despite your having no knowledge or experience, you want the Government to legislate against everyone else's rights.

How arrogant of you to assume that you know what is best for a child you do not know with a medical condition. You think you know better than the child, it's parents and it's medical professionals. And on the basis of what? What you saw on Fox News.

[c_cubed51]

7 hours ago, rowlf said:

Hallelujah, brother! You finally got it right! Just keep the life changing drugs and the scalpels alone. Most certainly leave the children alone. For everything there is a season. And every purpose under Heaven.

Say it ain't so, Joe!

Well, brother, you got it wrong again. Life changing drugs and scalpels are essential for treating young children with, for example, leukaemia or tumours. Admittedly, such instances are rare, but then again, so are the instances of gender realignment surgery in young people to which you repeatedly refer as "mutilation".

Lower-Limb Amputation in Children and Adolescents—A Rare Encounter with Unique and Special Challenges - PMC (nih.gov)

Life-saving interventions!

 

 

[rowlf]

30 minutes ago, Alteredbhoy said:

Oh FFS.

You are the one who keeps raising it. You are the one who states categorically that it should not happen. You are the one who wants the law to disregard the wishes of the child, the wishes of the parents and the advice of the medical profession.

And now you ask whether it should be a national debate?

You argue for individual freedom, free from Government interference. But on this issue, despite your having no knowledge or experience, you want the Government to legislate against everyone else's rights.

How arrogant of you to assume that you know what is best for a child you do not know with a medical condition. You think you know better than the child, it's parents and it's medical professionals. And on the basis of what? What you saw on Fox News.

I take this as you're unable to answer the question in fear of being alienated by your peers. That's not uncommon in the liberal world. You could say that's the status quo.

[rowlf]

3 minutes ago, c_cubed51 said:

Well, brother, you got it wrong again. Life changing drugs and scalpels are essential for treating young children with, for example, leukaemia or tumours. Admittedly, such instances are rare, but then again, so are the instances of gender realignment surgery in young people to which you repeatedly refer as "mutilation".

Lower-Limb Amputation in Children and Adolescents—A Rare Encounter with Unique and Special Challenges - PMC (nih.gov)

Life-saving interventions!

Are we talking about the same thing here? Or are you just bull jiving me once again. Were there any penis's scrotums removed in this operation?

[rowlf]

1 minute ago, rowlf said:

Are we talking about the same thing here? Or are you just bull jiving me once again. Were there any penis's scrotums removed in this operation?

Cos those things are very important to a young man. Or I suppose you could freeze them for a wannabe boy. Do we have to go here? Or why don't you just admit it's a despicable idea?

[c_cubed51]

3 minutes ago, rowlf said:

Are we talking about the same thing here? Or are you just bull jiving me once again. Were there any penis's scrotums removed in this operation?

Your inability to make connections is unsurprising.

[Alteredbhoy]

9 minutes ago, rowlf said:

I take this as you're unable to answer the question in fear of being alienated by your peers. That's not uncommon in the liberal world. You could say that's the status quo.

That's your stock answer when faced with incontrovertible logic. Either that or abuse.

[rowlf]

23 minutes ago, Alteredbhoy said:

That's your stock answer when faced with incontrovertible logic. Either that or abuse.

I tell it like it is. If you think that's abuse, then it's on you. You act as though you've never abused a fellow member.

[c_cubed51]

11 hours ago, Sarah_Connor said:

Biology 201.

There are a myriad of ways that organisms reproduce but by far the most common is asexual reproduction. No males, no females.
There are a number of sexes. Some Fungi for example have 36,000 sexes.
Sex is not an immutable fact. Many fish for example change their sex. 
DSD's are not deviations, variances nor mutations. They are predictable end points of a cascade of interactions between a gene, the environment (internal/external), and epigenetics.

Our brain is interwoven into every function and cell of our body. It's moot trying to discuss a human being as a bunch of parts as if the brain were somehow irrelevant to that person. You could look at a cadaver and say that it was female because you observed a uterus.  However you could not tell the gender of that person, the conscious reality of that person, who they are, what they thought, voted for, felt.... . Given we are social animals that  have evolved very complex social structures it's ridiculous to not consider these social constructions in any discussion about gender.

All life is the manifestation of a mental condition. I think therefore I am. 
 

I don't think rowlf understood this post, SC. Especially The last line!

Edited September 22 by c_cubed51

[Sarah_Connor]

7 hours ago, rowlf said:

The obvious truth here, that is not within your body is that you make it so easy to disagree with you. There's too many 'no brainer' issues that need not be debated. Why in God's name would you want to castrate a young man. Or remove the breasts of a young girl? Or administer life changing drugs that would change the physical properties of their bodies forever? I image it would affect a young man's penis size and possibly a girl's breast size. Not to mention many other afflictions to the body. Why should we do this to our children just because the powers that be promote this? Yet you're told to allow the children to make these decisions. These are the very same children that are unable to take out the garbage. It's also the very same children that we are unwilling/unable to educate. This is an example of what is taught in our schools. In the US the proficiency level of 4th graders in reading and math is less than 30%. And the spending on education is skyrocketing. Yet the thrust of our education efforts continues to be the 'quizzing' of children on what sex they think they are. Do you actually believe this is in the best interests of our children. Do you think the people that tell you to be concerned about these things gives a didly damn about your children, your community, your personal well-being? Absolutely not! It's designed to divide us.

This book is in our schools at this time.

https://theiowastandard.com/shocking-images-from-book-gender-queer-which-is-stocked-in-school-libraries-across-iowa/

 

1 hour ago, rowlf said:

Are we talking about the same thing here? Or are you just bull jiving me once again. Were there any penis's scrotums removed in this operation?

Although he refused to answer we finally get to the crux that Rowlf thinks mutilation is:
Genitalia removal - m to f surgery
Mastectomy - f to m surgery
Hormones ?

He hasn't defined what a child is but I'll take it to mean anyone under 16 years of age.

Well, using US data it's very rare for under 16 year old boys to receive genitalia surgery. In fact there were less than 20 per year  in the years 2019 - 2021.  In that time over 120,000 children were diagnosed with gender dysphoria  So it's not like boys are just walking down to Walmart and get a new vagina is it.

Top surgery is more common  - roughly 250 per year. Of course this pales into insignificance when weighed against the number of under 16 year olds getting cosmetic breast surgery - numbering in the HUNDRED THOUSANDS, but Rowlf is happy with that type of mutilation.

Hormonal treatments are about 3,000 but as I have already told Ursula the effects are mostly reversible in children and in any case it's quite obvious these things aren't just given out like lollies are they. 

Just more typical alt- right hysteria from our Ruskie bot.
 

[rowlf]

1 hour ago, Sarah_Connor said:

 

Although he refused to answer we finally get to the crux that Rowlf thinks mutilation is:
Genitalia removal - m to f surgery
Mastectomy - f to m surgery
Hormones ?

He hasn't defined what a child is but I'll take it to mean anyone under 16 years of age.

Well, using US data it's very rare for under 16 year old boys to receive genitalia surgery. In fact there were less than 20 per year  in the years 2019 - 2021.  In that time over 120,000 children were diagnosed with gender dysphoria  So it's not like boys are just walking down to Walmart and get a new vagina is it.

Top surgery is more common  - roughly 250 per year. Of course this pales into insignificance when weighed against the number of under 16 year olds getting cosmetic breast surgery - numbering in the HUNDRED THOUSANDS, but Rowlf is happy with that type of mutilation.

Hormonal treatments are about 3,000 but as I have already told Ursula the effects are mostly reversible in children and in any case it's quite obvious these things aren't just given out like lollies are they. 

Just more typical alt- right hysteria from our Ruskie bot.
 

I just don't think it's the right thing to do. I believe we've fucked up kids so badly they don't know where they're coming or going. As I've said before, we don't have the expertise to teach the kids to go forth and educate them enough to make a life for themselves. Yet these very same people are the ones that have a say in what they do to these children? I can't believe so many people can so readily, with exuberance, accept this scenario. What has this 'civilized world' become?  We can't discuss things without getting angry. That means that nothing is ever settled. But if it's any consolation, we didn't make this up ourselves. We had plenty of help.

[Sarah_Connor]

Just now, rowlf said:

I just don't think it's the right thing to do. I believe we've fucked up kids so badly they don't know where they're coming or going. As I've said before, we don't have the expertise to teach the kids to go forth and educate them enough to make a life for themselves. Yet these very same people are the ones that have a say in what they do to these children? I can't believe so many people can so readily, with exuberance, accept this scenario. What has this 'civilized world' become?  We can't discuss things without getting angry. That means that nothing is ever settled. But if it's any consolation, we didn't make this up ourselves. We had plenty of help.

Do you ever make a cohesive comment? This is just rambling horse shit.

You don't think gender re assignment surgery is the right thing to do (I assume in young people, although knowing you, it's more like all people). Yet you happily accept cosmetic surgery in the same age group? . Splain that to me.

[Alteredbhoy]

10 hours ago, rowlf said:

I just don't think it's the right thing to do. 

As I've said before, you think that in direct opposition to the opinion of the young person, their parents and their medical practitioners.

What you think in this instance is irrelevant, especially as it is based on no understanding or compassion for the families predicament, or for the medical opinion.

Your thought isn't based upon anything evidential or compassionate, but simply what your gut and Tucker Carlson tell you.

[rowlf]

14 hours ago, Sarah_Connor said:

Do you ever make a cohesive comment? This is just rambling horse shit.

You don't think gender re assignment surgery is the right thing to do (I assume in young people, although knowing you, it's more like all people). Yet you happily accept cosmetic surgery in the same age group? . Splain that to me.

Please don't get angry, Penny. You may upchuck your curds and whey. I'll 'splain it to ya if you only stop posting those sensuous, scintillating, salacious, seductive, sulty photos of yourself. (Where's chiliboy?)

I don't really know what you're talking about. Are we talking about a nose job, a cleft palate, a goiter? Which would you rather have? Eyebrow tattoos or the removal of your nut sac? Well, maybe you're the wrong one to ask about this...

[rowlf]

1 minute ago, rowlf said:

Do you ever make a cohesive comment?

Cohesive, huh?

Like, "I'm made of rubber, you're made of glue?

[Alteredbhoy]

13 minutes ago, rowlf said:

Cohesive, huh?

Like, "I'm made of rubber, you're made of glue?

Rowlf playbook rule number 14

If you can't think of a response to a conversation, pretend to muddle your words, or deliberately misspell them. 

Nobody really understands the purpose of this rule, but rowlf believes it has comedic effect.

[c_cubed51]

18 hours ago, rowlf said:

I just don't think it's the right thing to do. I believe we've fucked up kids so badly they don't know where they're coming or going. As I've said before, we don't have the expertise to teach the kids to go forth and educate them enough to make a life for themselves.

When an American teacher can earn more money working at Costco than in the classroom, it suggests that the USA needs to pay its teachers decently if it wants an educated citizenry.

I Quit Teaching to Work at Costco and I'm Much Happier (businessinsider.com)

Note, too, that she feels safe there.

What an indictment of the education system in the USA,

[rowlf]

3 minutes ago, c_cubed51 said:

When an American teacher can earn more money working at Costco than in the classroom, it suggests that the USA needs to pay its teachers decently if it wants an educated citizenry.

I Quit Teaching to Work at Costco and I'm Much Happier (businessinsider.com)

Note, too, that she feels safe there.

What an indictment of the education system in the USA,

How many employees are able to fit on that corporate ladder? I wonder if she slept there?

https://usafacts.org/data/topics/people-society/education/k-12-education/public-school-teacher-salary-average/

[rowlf]

11 minutes ago, c_cubed51 said:

What an indictment of the education system in the USA,

But you and I both know why teachers are unable to teach. And money isn't the reason.

https://engage-education.com/aus/blog/teacher-salary-in-the-uk-how-does-it-compares-with-those-abroad-engage-education/

Here's how the UK compare.

https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=567866750&cs=0&sxsrf=AM9HkKn4Qt6xFAOQTJcBFqUdK6GI3IqSuA:1695491805116&q=How+much+do+teachers+get+paid+UK+after+tax%3F&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj6mIWWp8GBAxVLrYkEHYqFAZkQzmd6BAgLEAY&biw=1352&bih=664&dpr=1

[Sarah_Connor]

6 hours ago, rowlf said:

Please don't get angry, Penny. You may upchuck your curds and whey. I'll 'splain it to ya if you only stop posting those sensuous, scintillating, salacious, seductive, sulty photos of yourself. (Where's chiliboy?)

I don't really know what you're talking about. Are we talking about a nose job, a cleft palate, a goiter? Which would you rather have? Eyebrow tattoos or the removal of your nut sac? Well, maybe you're the wrong one to ask about this...

What's the difference between a boob job and a boob job ?

[c_cubed51]

11 hours ago, Sarah_Connor said:

What's the difference between a boob job and a boob job ?

In one the AAAs have it, and in the other the DDDs have it.

[Alteredbhoy]

11 hours ago, Sarah_Connor said:

What's the difference between a boob job and a boob job ?

It isn't the procedure to which rowlf objects, but it's purpose. Medical purposes are fine, providing they are for what he considers "real" conditions and not a "silly idea" (even if the doctors consider it necessary to treat a medical condition). Cosmetic surgery is acceptable too, providing it is to augment the patient's femininity (as defined by rowlf) and not to diminish it.

Rowlf believes he should be the arbiter of what surgeries other people should undergo. The patient's wishes and the medical professionals' advice is irrelevant. It should only be allowed to proceed if rowlf thinks it is a "good idea" and it coincides with his prejudices.