Detransition: Myths and Facts

[Alteredbhoy]

6 minutes ago, rowlf said:

The interview wasn't about me.

The interview wasn't about anything other than stupid people being willing to believe anything without any evidence if it fits with their pre-judged (i.e. prejudiced) view of the world.

You complain about people being manipulated by MSM, but you are prepared to believe anything, absolutely anything, no matter how bizarre or unlikely, no matter that there is no evidence to support it, no matter that there is plenty of evidence to counter it, so long as it corresponds to your opinion and paints those with whom you disagree in a bad light.

Have you seen the story about Joe Biden seen encouraging Hunter Biden and Nancy Pelosi to feed the dessicated and diced remains of the children of illegal migrants to their chickens? It's why they are so lax on illegal migration. Got to keep those chickens plump.

Have you heard that back in the 1960s while Joe Biden was visiting Russia, he is believed to have fathered Vladimir Putin? It's how Hunter Biden got so rich, with payouts from his half brother via corrupt oligarchs.

[rowlf]

31 minutes ago, Alteredbhoy said:

Have you seen the story about Joe Biden seen encouraging Hunter Biden and Nancy Pelosi to feed the dessicated and diced remains of the children of illegal migrants to their chickens? It's why they are so lax on illegal migration. Got to keep those chickens plump.

Have you heard that back in the 1960s while Joe Biden was visiting Russia, he is believed to have fathered Vladimir Putin? It's how Hunter Biden got so rich, with payouts from his half brother via corrupt oligarchs.

No, I haven't heard about these things. Why don't you tell us more about them. Good ol' Joe would always do anything for a laugh or two...

[dappi]

2 hours ago, rowlf said:

No, I haven't heard about these things. Why don't you tell us more about them. Good ol' Joe would always do anything for a laugh or two...

Rowlf generally struggles to understand the written word. He still maintains that the use of the wrong pronouns in Canada is illegal despite the new Canadian human rights law not mentioning pronouns at all.

In answer to the following question.

Does the bill legislate the use of certain language? And could someone go to jail for using the wrong pronoun?

The guidelines state that.

“The misuse of gender pronouns, without more, cannot rise to the level of a crime,” she says. “It cannot rise to the level of advocating genocide, inciting hatred, hate speech or hate crimes … (it) simply cannot meet the threshold.”

Rowlf steadfastly maintains that the Canadian government guidance is not true.

He surely will not answer this despite endless evidence proving he is wrong.

He blindly follows his Right Wing MSM who never lie.

[Alteredbhoy]

3 hours ago, rowlf said:

No, I haven't heard about these things. Why don't you tell us more about them. Good ol' Joe would always do anything for a laugh or two...

Ask Tucker whether they are true or not. Based upon the last interview he will probably say that they are, "Interesting". I think that's all you will need to convince you that they are true.

[rowlf]

It seems Newsweek was prophetic in their announcement of Obama's 'secret life'.

https://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/05/newsweeks-next-cover-obama-first-gay-president

[Alteredbhoy]

28 minutes ago, rowlf said:

It seems Newsweek was prophetic in their announcement of Obama's 'secret life'.

https://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/05/newsweeks-next-cover-obama-first-gay-president

Producing news articles from over ten years ago to "prove" your version of a story that nobody else believes or cares about.

Now if Obama had been found by a Court to have sexually assaulted someone, you would never let it rest.

You have no sense of perspective.

[rowlf]

2 hours ago, Alteredbhoy said:

Producing news articles from over ten years ago to "prove" your version of a story that nobody else believes or cares about.

Now if Obama had been found by a Court to have sexually assaulted someone, you would never let it rest.

You have no sense of perspective.

You've already shown your true colors. You've shown them by not criticizing punjab, and the fact that you could never believe Obama could possibly allow his meat to be swallowed by another man. You knew without a doubt it was a damned lie. Didn't you?

IMO, after watching the video it is most likely true that while Obama was state representative, he also had a night job showing gentlemen the town and supplying drugs (cocaine) upon request. It is also possible that a man was murdered because he knew too much. I now feel as though law enforcement should make a 'real' investigation into the death of Obama's chef. These people that are manipulating Obama are hardened thugs which will stop at nothing to get what they want.

It's obviously true that one with the biggest mouth, doing most of the name calling would also be the most egregious bigot.

Maybe you should attempt to cut back on your laborious calling of names to people that disagree with you. But you won't. It's not within you.

[rowlf]

I looked back at the last several posts and realized that numbie and I had sucked all the oxygen from the thread. I'll take a breather while those with more important things to say will have their chance.

[Alteredbhoy]

6 hours ago, rowlf said:

You've already shown your true colors. You've shown them by not criticizing punjab, and the fact that you could never believe Obama could possibly allow his meat to be swallowed by another man. You knew without a doubt it was a damned lie. Didn't you?

IMO, after watching the video it is most likely true that while Obama was state representative, he also had a night job showing gentlemen the town and supplying drugs (cocaine) upon request. It is also possible that a man was murdered because he knew too much. I now feel as though law enforcement should make a 'real' investigation into the death of Obama's chef. These people that are manipulating Obama are hardened thugs which will stop at nothing to get what they want.

It's obviously true that one with the biggest mouth, doing most of the name calling would also be the most egregious bigot.

Maybe you should attempt to cut back on your laborious calling of names to people that disagree with you. But you won't. It's not within you.

Back to the nutjob conspiracy theories and the racial slurs. One person says what you want to hear, and in your opinion that's enough to make you believe it to be true.

It's your gullibility and desperation that is sucking the oxygen out of this debate.

[c_cubed51]

This thread has wandered way off track from its beginnings. Did rowlf ever listen to the podcast?

[Alteredbhoy]

30 minutes ago, c_cubed51 said:

This thread has wandered way off track from its beginnings. Did rowlf ever listen to the podcast?

Of course he didn't. He was too busy masturbating while watching a drug addict makes accusations about Obama in an interviewed with Tucker Carlson.

[rowlf]

5 hours ago, c_cubed51 said:

This thread has wandered way off track from its beginnings. Did rowlf ever listen to the podcast?

You mentioned me, so I feel I should reply. I had not watched the podcast until numbie brought it up. I had heard about it. But when ab used that as some sort of 'proof' that I was wrong in what I was saying.......... as he is want to do, I felt obliged to do so. The man may have very well been paid to have the interview. I don't know, and I don't care.

However, the idea that ab states every time that he hasn't the 'time' to watch such things, I find hilarious. If it's something salacious enough, dirty enough he makes the time for it. Especially concerning his 'mentor'.

It's obvious Obama's handlers have had to hide certain aspects of Barry's life to make him a viable candidate. Lack of information about his life makes us more alert for more info.

What is astounding, comical if it wasn't so tragic, is that ab is so vehemently opposed even to the possibility of the man being truthful. Ab's thinking that Obama would be shown in such a poor light if it was true....... which it may very well be true.

Did cubed ever listen to the podcast?

[rowlf]

6 hours ago, Alteredbhoy said:

Back to the nutjob conspiracy theories and the racial slurs. One person says what you want to hear, and in your opinion that's enough to make you believe it to be true.

It's your gullibility and desperation that is sucking the oxygen out of this debate.

Back at you, slick. You're exactly describing yourself.

[rowlf]

6 hours ago, c_cubed51 said:

This thread has wandered way off track from its beginnings. Did rowlf ever listen to the podcast?

One thing that may actually belong on this thread. I've seen many articles concerning the LBG community desiring to separate from the TQ+, etc. community. I know you, the OP on this thread, and Ursula and Penny going back and forth on this issue. There are obviously two factions to this community. What say you?

https://www.gbnews.com/opinion/lgbt-news-darren-grimes-opinion-latest-news

[Alteredbhoy]

2 hours ago, rowlf said:

You mentioned me, so I feel I should reply. I had not watched the podcast until numbie brought it up. I had heard about it. But when ab used that as some sort of 'proof' that I was wrong in what I was saying.......... as he is want to do, I felt obliged to do so. The man may have very well been paid to have the interview. I don't know, and I don't care.

However, the idea that ab states every time that he hasn't the 'time' to watch such things, I find hilarious. If it's something salacious enough, dirty enough he makes the time for it. Especially concerning his 'mentor'.

It's obvious Obama's handlers have had to hide certain aspects of Barry's life to make him a viable candidate. Lack of information about his life makes us more alert for more info.

What is astounding, comical if it wasn't so tragic, is that ab is so vehemently opposed even to the possibility of the man being truthful. Ab's thinking that Obama would be shown in such a poor light if it was true....... which it may very well be true.

Did cubed ever listen to the podcast?

You show your inability to read even the most straight forward and brief of posts.

Cubed was asking whether you had watched the podcast which he posted at the beginning of this thread.

Your inability to comprehend even simple things, whilst trying to explain things by way of highly complicated and obviously unrealistic (i.e. untrue) conspiracy theories would be comical were it not so pitiful.

[rowlf]

18 minutes ago, Alteredbhoy said:

You show your inability to read even the most straight forward and brief of posts.

Cubed was asking whether you had watched the podcast which he posted at the beginning of this thread.

Your inability to comprehend even simple things, whilst trying to explain things by way of highly complicated and obviously unrealistic (i.e. untrue) conspiracy theories would be comical were it not so pitiful.

Instead of you telling me how 'bad' I am, speak on the topic of the thread. Don't make me call you 'bad' names!

[dappi]

57 minutes ago, rowlf said:

Instead of you telling me how 'bad' I am, speak on the topic of the thread. Don't make me call you 'bad' names!

This is a recurring problem with your answers.

[c_cubed51]

8 hours ago, rowlf said:

You mentioned me, so I feel I should reply. I had not watched the podcast until numbie brought it up. I had heard about it. But when ab used that as some sort of 'proof' that I was wrong in what I was saying.......... as he is want to do, I felt obliged to do so. The man may have very well been paid to have the interview. I don't know, and I don't care.

However, the idea that ab states every time that he hasn't the 'time' to watch such things, I find hilarious. If it's something salacious enough, dirty enough he makes the time for it. Especially concerning his 'mentor'.

It's obvious Obama's handlers have had to hide certain aspects of Barry's life to make him a viable candidate. Lack of information about his life makes us more alert for more info.

What is astounding, comical if it wasn't so tragic, is that ab is so vehemently opposed even to the possibility of the man being truthful. Ab's thinking that Obama would be shown in such a poor light if it was true....... which it may very well be true.

Did cubed ever listen to the podcast?

Yes, I did. Did you? (Yes or No will suffice as an answer.)

[Ursula Harrison]

On 06/09/2023 at 01:55, c_cubed51 said:

You oppose people such as Dappi

When have I ever said a word against Dappi?

On 07/09/2023 at 04:38, c_cubed51 said:

On what basis do you make that claim? Facts, please.

Well the Gallup Poll quoted in Rowlf's link would tend to back that up. Not only that but if what Darren Grimes says is in any way representative, we are now in danger of alienating the gay community, or at least a large section of it.

Without the support of the gay community we would not be where we are today. So I don't call that progress.

[Ursula Harrison]

On 07/09/2023 at 21:01, c_cubed51 said:

This is where you are misguided.

This is where you are full of shit.

Not to mention displaying signs of a Stalin complex.

[rowlf]

The OP is unwilling or unable to understand there are limits as to how embedded the trans movement should be in our society. Sadly, he is not alone. I can see how the pompous, self-righteous indignation of the prospect the rights of the LGBTQ+ community is a bitter pill to swallow, once it has been realized it has created problems for a component of their own org.

To be honest, I can see a solution to the problem by having uni-sex restrooms available in places similar to those currently in stores today. But the powers that drive this issue aren't satisfied with this. They desire these uni-sex restrooms even in schools and locker rooms. I don't remember what Ursula's viewpoint on this, but I believe I read where Kaitlin Jenner approves of this.

The reality of it all is that those initiating these 'rules to live by' are not going to back down, no matter what the people they are trying to 'help' think about this.

This is how the process works. This is exactly what they want to achieve. A wedge is placed between certain parties. Then what happens is another wedge is placed between the segmented parties.

And we fall for it. On the basis of 'humanity' and 'compassion'. But let there be no mistaking it. It's based on the desire of 'convenience'.

We are so f'ing comfortable in our environment that somebody else built for us that we don't want to 'make waves'. And the future for us doesn't look bright. We seem fat and sassy now, but by and by you won't be allowed to own more than your basic needs. The gov has the capability to control the cost of the items necessary for us to exist.

And now some doofus may ask for 'proof' of this.

But we're doing this to ourselves. So, I suppose many of you are correct in saying that we can't blame China. As Trump stated in the last election. "You can't blame China. I'd be doing the same thing if it were my country".

 

 

[dappi]

17 minutes ago, rowlf said:

The OP is unwilling or unable to understand there are limits as to how embedded the trans movement should be in our society. Sadly, he is not alone. I can see how the pompous, self-righteous indignation of the prospect the rights of the LGBTQ+ community is a bitter pill to swallow, once it has been realized it has created problems for a component of their own org.

To be honest, I can see a solution to the problem by having uni-sex restrooms available in places similar to those currently in stores today. But the powers that drive this issue aren't satisfied with this. They desire these uni-sex restrooms even in schools and locker rooms. I don't remember what Ursula's viewpoint on this, but I believe I read where Kaitlin Jenner approves of this.

The reality of it all is that those initiating these 'rules to live by' are not going to back down, no matter what the people they are trying to 'help' think about this.

This is how the process works. This is exactly what they want to achieve. A wedge is placed between certain parties. Then what happens is another wedge is placed between the segmented parties.

And we fall for it. On the basis of 'humanity' and 'compassion'. But let there be no mistaking it. It's based on the desire of 'convenience'.

We are so f'ing comfortable in our environment that somebody else built for us that we don't want to 'make waves'. And the future for us doesn't look bright. We seem fat and sassy now, but by and by you won't be allowed to own more than your basic needs. The gov has the capability to control the cost of the items necessary for us to exist.

And now some doofus may ask for 'proof' of this.

But we're doing this to ourselves. So, I suppose many of you are correct in saying that we can't blame China. As Trump stated in the last election. "You can't blame China. I'd be doing the same thing if it were my country".

 

 

Yet another home spun, lengthy load of total rubbish.

[Alteredbhoy]

4 hours ago, rowlf said:

I suppose many of you are correct in saying that we can't blame China. 

Wow!

Is that a backhanded way of admitting that your perpetual accusations of China being behind every one of your perceived complaints is inaccurate?

 

[rowlf]

6 minutes ago, Alteredbhoy said:

Wow!

Is that a backhanded way of admitting that your perpetual accusations of China being behind every one of your perceived complaints is inaccurate?

 

No, this is a front handed bitch slap to those of you that can't see that China is a threat to us. As a reminder, China is NOT our country. No matter how the media portrays them.

We must also remember China is a communist country. And they will take away your internet. Commie sympathizer or not, they will take away this tool, even for the mentally impaired.

That last comment I made was tongue-in-cheek.... just for you.

[Alteredbhoy]

21 minutes ago, rowlf said:

No, this is a front handed bitch slap to those of you that can't see that China is a threat to us. As a reminder, China is NOT our country. No matter how the media portrays them.

We must also remember China is a communist country. And they will take away your internet. Commie sympathizer or not, they will take away this tool, even for the mentally impaired.

That last comment I made was tongue-in-cheek.... just for you.

So while you say "we can't blame China" (whoever "we" is), you mean that you do blame China. For everything. Even though "we can't blame China".

As ever, everything you say is meaningless and nonsensical.

[c_cubed51]

On 11/09/2023 at 10:49, Ursula Harrison said:

This is where you are full of shit.

Not to mention displaying signs of a Stalin complex.

Stalin went around hurting people, didn't he? Seems inconsistent with my pacifist views, and rather more in line with your support for anti-LGBTQ+ abuse.

[rowlf]

1 hour ago, c_cubed51 said:

Stalin went around hurting people, didn't he? Seems inconsistent with my pacifist views, and rather more in line with your support for anti-LGBTQ+ abuse.

Hmm... but you didn't mind the lady getting her face broken while fighting a man in the ring, did ya? Didn't you say something like, 'That happens sometime.'

On nut jobs being allowed in women's restrooms.

It seems they don't make 'pacifists' like they used to.

And it certainly gives a new meaning to the word 'abuse'.

I suppose it just depends on which way your dick lays.

[Alteredbhoy]

6 hours ago, rowlf said:

Hmm... but you didn't mind the lady getting her face broken while fighting a man in the ring, did ya? Didn't you say something like, 'That happens sometime.'

On nut jobs being allowed in women's restrooms.

It seems they don't make 'pacifists' like they used to.

And it certainly gives a new meaning to the word 'abuse'.

I suppose it just depends on which way your dick lays.

You are truly repulsive.

The boxer chose to fight and got hurt. She didn't have to fight. But her getting hurt is somehow Cubed's fault?

And now you start describing transgender women as nut jobs. But you are not transphobic?

I don't think you have the intellect to understand what an offensive bigot you are.

[c_cubed51]

7 hours ago, rowlf said:

 

On nut jobs being allowed in women's restrooms.

 

 

 

I'm still waiting for a cis woman to be assaulted by a trans woman in a restroom. Meanwhile, the death toll due to gun violence in your country continues to rise with nary a complaint from you, rowlf. 

[rowlf]

4 hours ago, Alteredbhoy said:

You are truly repulsive.

The boxer chose to fight and got hurt. She didn't have to fight. But her getting hurt is somehow Cubed's fault?

And now you start describing transgender women as nut jobs. But you are not transphobic?

I don't think you have the intellect to understand what an offensive bigot you are.

Aren't you the proven bigot? You should be proud of the fact that Barry was a paid male prostitute. Yet you vehemently deny that he would even consider doing such a thing.

What is it that offends you the most? The fact that he's gay, or that he's a capitalist, or both?

[rowlf]

3 hours ago, c_cubed51 said:

I'm still waiting for a cis woman to be assaulted by a trans woman in a restroom. Meanwhile, the death toll due to gun violence in your country continues to rise with nary a complaint from you, rowlf. 

Two wrongs don't make a right...... except in your mind.

[Sarah_Connor]

11 hours ago, rowlf said:

Hmm... but you didn't mind the lady getting her face broken while fighting a man in the ring, did ya? Didn't you say something like, 'That happens sometime.'

 

It happens more than sometimes. I could type a list 100 fighters long of broken bones in MMA. Rhonda Rousey popped Misha Tate's arm out of it's socket. Rousey is quite a muscular woman - hell she's practically a man.  It's madness I tell ya. Keep men out of women's sport ! 

[dappi]

53 minutes ago, rowlf said:

Two wrongs don't make a right...... except in your mind.

Your inane comment has nothing to do with cubes post.

[Alteredbhoy]

4 hours ago, rowlf said:

Aren't you the proven bigot? You should be proud of the fact that Barry was a paid male prostitute. Yet you vehemently deny that he would even consider doing such a thing.

What is it that offends you the most? The fact that he's gay, or that he's a capitalist, or both?

No, the proven bigot is you. You are the one who resorts to racial slurs when you can't think of anything to say 

[rowlf]

4 hours ago, Sarah_Connor said:

It happens more than sometimes. I could type a list 100 fighters long of broken bones in MMA. Rhonda Rousey popped Misha Tate's arm out of it's socket. Rousey is quite a muscular woman - hell she's practically a man.  It's madness I tell ya. Keep men out of women's sport ! 

Ah, the 'pros from Dover', making a better world for themselves no matter the collateral damage.

[Ursula Harrison]

18 hours ago, c_cubed51 said:

Stalin went around hurting people, didn't he?

Yes. Mostly for saying things he didn't like. But speaking of hurting people, here's a clip of Trans Pride in London:

So there you have it. A trans activist (a biological male) calling for women to be punched in the face and receiving rapturous applause for doing so. 

Me opposing this and trying to make it clear that odious creature doesn't speak for me is hateful in your view. How does your support for this "activism" square with your pacifist beliefs?

Note also the Antifa flag being waved by this criminal.

 

[Ursula Harrison]

From incitement to violence to actual violence while the police stand by and do nothing but then have stern words with the victim.

So Cubed. You support those brave ninja wannbees in their courageous battle for trans rights? Aren't I evil for saying "not in my name"?

Of course the police don't always sit on their arse. Here they are throwing lesbians out of a Pride Parade (yes, you read that right) on the say so of trans activists.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFmxlyEv2RU&pp=ygUibGVzYmlhbnMgcmVtb3ZlZCBmcm9tIHByaWRlIHBhcmFkZQ%3D%3D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mObLe2YGnB4

I bet that cop was bullied at school.

As my dear friend Penelope is fond of saying, you couldn't make this shit up.

[Ursula Harrison]

If you watch those video clips you will see the groups LGB Alliance and Get The L Out. That's LGB without the "T" and get the "L" out of LGBT.

LGB Alliance has recently won a legal battle against Mermaids. So a good deal of the activism I'm supposed to support is directed against the gay community who have been our staunchest allies for decades. Well done trans activists for pissing them off. Especially for pissing off lesbians who I like to hang out with in gay venues to stop guys hitting on me.

That's what I mean by setting us back.

[Ursula Harrison]

By the way Cubed don't profess your faith too loudly. You wouldn't want to end up on the wrong side of the law for promoting conversion therapy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFs5UXKfL78

 

[c_cubed51]

3 hours ago, Ursula Harrison said:

Yes. Mostly for saying things he didn't like. But speaking of hurting people, here's a clip of Trans Pride in London:

So there you have it. A trans activist (a biological male) calling for women to be punched in the face and receiving rapturous applause for doing so. 

Me opposing this and trying to make it clear that odious creature doesn't speak for me is hateful in your view. How does your support for this "activism" square with your pacifist beliefs?

Note also the Antifa flag being waved by this criminal.

 

My first thought on reading your post, before watching the video was this - I wonder if anyone in the crowd had a phone with the "Anti Trans Hate Crime" app on it? They could have used it to report an anti-Anti Trans Hate Crime, which would have appealed to my warped sense of humour and called out this person for their hateful comment, by which you correctly feel offended.

Then I realised that this person is using their right to Freedom of Speech, something you feel really passionate about. So that ended the humour and brought me down to earth again.

So, I watched the video. You picked up only on the line which offended you, and seemingly missed the bit about acknowledging that there are a few really mean. nasty, horrible trans people in UK prisons. You also missed the bit about the vast majority of the 980 trans people in prisons having no testicles, and being held in men's facilities against their will. I think that ought to offend you, but it does not. It offends me.

'The rights of prisoners' really is an interesting topic for debate.