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Fake news or a new political correctness?

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According to the Washington Post The US Centre for Disease Control has been banned by the Trump administration from using seven words in its 2018 budget reports.

The reported guidelines are similar to directives issued to other agencies under the Department of Health and Human Services (of which the Centre for Disease Control is a part), regarding the collection of information about lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people.

The words are:
“vulnerable”, “entitlement”, “diversity”, “transgender”, “foetus”, “evidence-based” and “science-based”

Mara Keisling, executive director of the National Centre for Transgender Equality, said in a written statement.

The Trump administration is full of dangerous science deniers who have no business near American public health systems like the CDC,” she continued. “They are actually going to kill Americans if they do not stop.”

I hope this is fake news but everything is becoming blurred.

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I'll bet there are a lot of words Trump wants banned. Soon on his list will be: sexual misconduct, abuse of power, collusion, Russia, global warming, free press and sensible gun control to name a few.

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I have a life thank you but you don't make the rules here and I'll post what I like....just like you always do.

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22 minutes ago, JennCD said:

I have a life thank you but you don't make the rules here and I'll post what I like....just like you always do.

I don't think I asked you not to post. I'm just suggesting that many members are critical of Trump with no good reason. I read the reports concerning what helen posted, but so what? There must be a reason, and I don't care that much to look in to it. The important things are national defense, fiscal responsibility, and a chance for all Americans to achieve the American dream.

I only suggested that if you looked within, many of your problems could be solved if you only concentrated on these same goals.

I agree that I post what I like, and I will always encourage you to do the same.

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57 minutes ago, rowlf said:

I don't think I asked you not to post. I'm just suggesting that many members are critical of Trump with no good reason. I read the reports concerning what helen posted, but so what? There must be a reason, and I don't care that much to look in to it. The important things are national defense, fiscal responsibility, and a chance for all Americans to achieve the American dream.

I only suggested that if you looked within, many of your problems could be solved if you only concentrated on these same goals.

I agree that I post what I like, and I will always encourage you to do the same.

Oh dear. It starts with words. Then he bans books. Then he bans ideas. Ideas people. Academics... and so on... Sound familiar?

 

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11 minutes ago, Trinity said:

Oh dear. It starts with words. Then he bans books. Then he bans ideas. Ideas people. Academics... and so on... Sound familiar?

 

Btw, weren't you banned?

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It was reported by CNN on 8th December.

According to an analysis by the Environmental Data and Governance Initiative, a group that monitors federal environmental agency web pages, the Environmental Protection Agency has been altering the content of its web site to avoid references to ”climate change," and “global warming”. It shows a message that the page was being updated to "reflect the approach of new leadership."

Trinity is right, this is censorship and the thin end of a dangerous wedge
All power to the Ministry of Truth!

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12 hours ago, rowlf said:

I don't think I asked you not to post. I'm just suggesting that many members are critical of Trump with no good reason. I read the reports concerning what helen posted, but so what? There must be a reason, and I don't care that much to look in to it. The important things are national defense, fiscal responsibility, and a chance for all Americans to achieve the American dream.

I only suggested that if you looked within, many of your problems could be solved if you only concentrated on these same goals.

I agree that I post what I like, and I will always encourage you to do the same.

Like.

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14 hours ago, helen said:

According to the Washington Post The US Centre for Disease Control has been banned by the Trump administration from using seven words in its 2018 budget reports.

The reported guidelines are similar to directives issued to other agencies under the Department of Health and Human Services (of which the Centre for Disease Control is a part), regarding the collection of information about lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people.

The words are:
“vulnerable”, “entitlement”, “diversity”, “transgender”, “foetus”, “evidence-based” and “science-based”

Mara Keisling, executive director of the National Centre for Transgender Equality, said in a written statement.

The Trump administration is full of dangerous science deniers who have no business near American public health systems like the CDC,” she continued. “They are actually going to kill Americans if they do not stop.”

I hope this is fake news but everything is becoming blurred.

You could always Wikki it Mel.

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2 hours ago, helen said:

It was reported by CNN on 8th December.

According to an analysis by the Environmental Data and Governance Initiative, a group that monitors federal environmental agency web pages, the Environmental Protection Agency has been altering the content of its web site to avoid references to ”climate change," and “global warming”. It shows a message that the page was being updated to "reflect the approach of new leadership."

Trinity is right, this is censorship and the thin end of a dangerous wedge
All power to the Ministry of Truth!

Dammit mel, I still think you get paid spreading Socialist propaganda. Brits and Wikis seem unaffected by Trumps promise to create jobs and bring manufacturing jobs back to the US. You desire the gov to supply your comprehensive needs. I was going to write 'basic needs', but they do so much more than that.

However, you guys needed worry about the mechanics of running a gov, there's more important things that must be accomplished.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/18/world/europe/britain-ads-gender-stereotypes.html

 

 

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12 hours ago, rowlf said:

Dammit mel, I still think you get paid spreading Socialist propaganda. Brits and Wikis seem unaffected by Trumps promise to create jobs and bring manufacturing jobs back to the US. You desire the gov to supply your comprehensive needs. I was going to write 'basic needs', but they do so much more than that.

However, you guys needed worry about the mechanics of running a gov, there's more important things that must be accomplished.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/18/world/europe/britain-ads-gender-stereotypes.html

 

 

This is hilarious. The countries that I can think of that have most used this form of censorship were: USSR, China, Eastern Bloc, NOKO... and of course fascist regimes like the Nazi's.

But back to the first 4 I mentioned... all communist.   And you accuse Hel of socialist propaganda ? Ironic?

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8 hours ago, Trinity said:

This is hilarious. The countries that I can think of that have most used this form of censorship were: USSR, China, Eastern Bloc, NOKO... and of course fascist regimes like the Nazi's.

But back to the first 4 I mentioned... all communist.   And you accuse Hel of socialist propaganda ? Ironic?

It's a well known fact that our Mel was always a very left leaner. He was/is always shouting for distribution of wealth.

But speaking of fake news, there is enough of that on these forums from a couple of members to keep everyone guessing. No need to try and keep up with DT, it's all happening here.

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8 hours ago, Trinity said:

This is hilarious. The countries that I can think of that have most used this form of censorship were: USSR, China, Eastern Bloc, NOKO... and of course fascist regimes like the Nazi's.

But back to the first 4 I mentioned... all communist.   And you accuse Hel of socialist propaganda ? Ironic?

It's really not that funny. I am saying the UK gov is using their power to alter public opinion. To manipulate people's opinions into a form that can further control those people. What else would be the purpose in removing all the inherent characteristics of the sexes? Just the fact that many members of this forum lament the good ol' days when women wore fine hosiery and men admired them doing so. We all wonder why the ladies don't wear anymore. Well, this article is proof of a society that is headed for a reversal of the way things once were. And it is being conducted by the gov. It is done to preoccupy your mind with these silly nuances that don't mean crap, so the controlling gov can do what they wish to increase their power over you.

You, yourself are a product of this campaign to brainwash the mind into a certain thought process.

It's amazing that melmoth curses the bankers on a daily basis, I would imagine, and at the same times, plays right into their hands. Now this is ironic.

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6 minutes ago, luckyme said:

It's a well known fact that our Mel was always a very left leaner. He was/is always shouting for distribution of wealth.

But speaking of fake news, there is enough of that on these forums from a couple of members to keep everyone guessing. No need to try and keep up with DT, it's all happening here.

Dammit luckyme, you must have balls as big as church bells!:58674be5c2392_EmojiSmiley-13:

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1 minute ago, rowlf said:

Dammit luckyme, you must have balls as big as church bells!:58674be5c2392_EmojiSmiley-13:

With this cold weather, it's not so much church bells as a string of washers.

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15 hours ago, rowlf said:

It's really not that funny. I am saying the UK gov is using their power to alter public opinion. To manipulate people's opinions into a form that can further control those people. What else would be the purpose in removing all the inherent characteristics of the sexes? Just the fact that many members of this forum lament the good ol' days when women wore fine hosiery and men admired them doing so. We all wonder why the ladies don't wear anymore. Well, this article is proof of a society that is headed for a reversal of the way things once were. And it is being conducted by the gov. It is done to preoccupy your mind with these silly nuances that don't mean crap, so the controlling gov can do what they wish to increase their power over you.

You, yourself are a product of this campaign to brainwash the mind into a certain thought process.

It's amazing that melmoth curses the bankers on a daily basis, I would imagine, and at the same times, plays right into their hands. Now this is ironic.

Clearly, once again things have flown over your head with a mighty woosh into the night sky. Hopefully the earth's gravity will catch the concept and bring it back round again for you to grasp in 15 or so years.

What you describe in the UK is actually rather different , but in your opinion the same, as what Trump has just decreed in your country.  Yet you defend Trump's actions.  Ironic. As usual.

 

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9 hours ago, Trinity said:

Clearly, once again things have flown over your head with a mighty woosh into the night sky. Hopefully the earth's gravity will catch the concept and bring it back round again for you to grasp in 15 or so years.

What you describe in the UK is actually rather different , but in your opinion the same, as what Trump has just decreed in your country.  Yet you defend Trump's actions.  Ironic. As usual.

 

What is ironic is that he needs no defending.

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2 hours ago, rowlf said:

What is ironic is that he needs no defending.

Who? Donald Trump or this Boatman fellow?

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Jeanine Pirro, Host of a weekly show on Rupert Murdoch’s Fox ‘News’ channel in the USA:

There was, she said, “a criminal cabal” within federal law enforcement trying to undermine Donald Trump.
She called for: “a cleansing … in our FBI and Department of Justice. It needs to be cleansed of individuals who should not just be fired, but who need to be taken out in cuffs.”
 “There were times in our history when corruption and lawlessness were so pervasive that examples had to be made. This is one of those times.”

A poll taken in July found that 33% of Republicans get their ‘news’ only from Fox and indicated a deep distrust of mainstream news outlets among rightwing partisans.

New Year resolution:
I promise I will never complain about ITV News again.

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1 hour ago, helen said:

Jeanine Pirro, Host of a weekly show on Rupert Murdoch’s Fox ‘News’ channel in the USA:

There was, she said, “a criminal cabal” within federal law enforcement trying to undermine Donald Trump.
She called for: “a cleansing … in our FBI and Department of Justice. It needs to be cleansed of individuals who should not just be fired, but who need to be taken out in cuffs.”
 “There were times in our history when corruption and lawlessness were so pervasive that examples had to be made. This is one of those times.”

A poll taken in July found that 33% of Republicans get their ‘news’ only from Fox and indicated a deep distrust of mainstream news outlets among rightwing partisans.

New Year resolution:
I promise I will never complain about ITV News again.

That's only half right. For me anyway. I listen to everything. However, I absolutely do not trust CMM, MSNBC, and just about all of the big city newspapers. I didn't make it this way. They did by spreading 'fake' or biased news. Anyone can plainly see this............if they wanted to.

Judge Jeanine, as we fondly refer to her, is known for this type of reportage. There's nothing wrong in her methods of presentation. However, it only works with moderate to right wing audiences. Liberals have no sense of humor.

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2 hours ago, rowlf said:

That's only half right. For me anyway. I listen to everything. However, I absolutely do not trust CMM, MSNBC, and just about all of the big city newspapers. I didn't make it this way. They did by spreading 'fake' or biased news. Anyone can plainly see this............if they wanted to.

Judge Jeanine, as we fondly refer to her, is known for this type of reportage. There's nothing wrong in her methods of presentation. However, it only works with moderate to right wing audiences. Liberals have no sense of humor.

How do you know which news media are telling you the truth? You believe what you want to hear. Your strings are being pulled by Murdoch and for all you know so are Trump's.

Or maybe you are all just Putin's 'useful idiots'.

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43 minutes ago, helen said:

How do you know which news media are telling you the truth? You believe what you want to hear. Your strings are being pulled by Murdoch and for all you know so are Trump's.

Or maybe you are all just Putin's 'useful idiots'.

Are kidding me? It's the left that believes what they want to hear. You would shed your liberal tendencies toot sweet if you were told that you would be paid a monthly stipend, but it would be necessary for you to perform in a public work detail to partially pay for this stipend. Or if teachers wanted a pay raise, they would actually have to teach the students instead getting a lifetime job. Or if public servants wanted to strike for a wage increase, the municipality would have to have the money to do so, instead of borrowing against the future of their children. Or the gov would guarantee you a free or greatly discounted education. The only catch being you had to actually work in that field after graduation.

The Republican Party of my youth is one that told me if I worked hard, learned all I could in school, and respect my elders, I had a chance of making a success out of my life. And that I could pass on to future Americans all that my predecessors have given me.

I don't know how in hell a grown-up in this day and age can skip through this life and not give a damn what he leaves for those left behind.

Yep, I'm dancing to the tune of Rupert Murdoch. If this is the case, I don't mind a bit. He's provided me with a very good life.

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1 hour ago, rowlf said:

Yep, I'm dancing to the tune of Rupert Murdoch. If this is the case, I don't mind a bit. He's provided me with a very good life.

I can’t imagine what Rupert Murdoch could ever have done for you but be advised. Murdoch is only interested in what is in his own financial interests. He will ditch Trump, and you, as soon as the political wind changes and he sees more profit somewhere else.
I continue to be amazed by how gullible some Americans can be, and I can now see there are millions.

 

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3 hours ago, helen said:

How do you know which news media are telling you the truth? You believe what you want to hear. Your strings are being pulled by Murdoch and for all you know so are Trump's.

Or maybe you are all just Putin's 'useful idiots'.

Now come on Mel, that's hardly fair. You believe everything on Wikki is the truth and have often said so on here.

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4 hours ago, helen said:

I can’t imagine what Rupert Murdoch could ever have done for you but be advised. Murdoch is only interested in what is in his own financial interests. He will ditch Trump, and you, as soon as the political wind changes and he sees more profit somewhere else.
I continue to be amazed by how gullible some Americans can be, and I can now see there are millions.

3 hours ago, Trinity said:

Like !

:58674be5c2392_EmojiSmiley-13:You boys had better lay off those doobies......

 

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10 hours ago, rowlf said:

:58674be5c2392_EmojiSmiley-13:You boys had better lay off those doobies......

 

Is that the same doobies as Scoobie Doobie?

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12 minutes ago, luckyme said:

Is that the same doobies as Scoobie Doobie?

Not even! There must be some reason for posting their 'lofty' replies.....................

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2 minutes ago, rowlf said:

Not even! There must be some reason for posting their 'lofty' replies.....................

Ah, that must be as in 'hay loft', usually empty and full of dust.

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The US ambassador to the United Nations, Nikki Haley, has warned UN members she will be “taking names” of countries that vote to reject Donald Trump’s recognition of Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.

“As you consider your vote, I encourage you to know the president and the US take this vote personally.”
“The president will be watching this vote carefully and has requested I report back on those who voted against us,”

Ah, American diplomacy, that great oxymoron.

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4 minutes ago, helen said:

The US ambassador to the United Nations, Nikki Haley, has warned UN members she will be “taking names” of countries that vote to reject Donald Trump’s recognition of Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.

“As you consider your vote, I encourage you to know the president and the US take this vote personally.”
“The president will be watching this vote carefully and has requested I report back on those who voted against us,”

Ah, American diplomacy, that great oxymoron.

Go back to sleep. I'll PM you when it's over.

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