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Worry Signs - Is This The Death Of Nylon?

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*worrying...........

 

I have the pleasure of commuting to central London, one of the things that keeps me sane 

is the odd flash of a nylon clad calf, or heaven forbid a sight of a stocking top, (I swear escalators

were invented by a stockings fan)

 

I would say in the past year, especially six months, the sight of either has been almost zero,

Let's omit stocking tops for now and assume women are getting better at dressing ;-), I would guess that 1 in 200 women under 50 wear nylon tights, and probably 5% of those are stockings, mainly hold ups. I have not seen the bumps of a welt for about 3 years, and believe me I could teach a masterclass on looking. Every other woman is wearing opaque tights or leggings. It's becoming a national compulsory uniform.

 

My train route involves City woman getting off at London Bridge, or sometimes I take a train to Cannon Street to the heart of the city.  A few years ago this was a goldmine area to anyone who admired a nylon clad leg. 

 

On to today, almost EVERY woman under 50 wears opaques or woollen stockings, this is a first in 30+ years of being a stockings lover. Now onto the worrying bit............

 

I overheard two twenty something girls referring to another woman they saw as wearing,

 

"old ladies tights, you know the shiny, see-through ones"

 

And that people, is the problem for me, Nylons are now considered for older women only. Even my own wife who used to wear the occasional nylon hold up only wears cotton/opaques, and now leggings have crept into the wardrobe, I despair.

 

So liking stockings has gone beyond being a fetish thing in the eyes of the public, and onto being just downright weird and odd.

 

This does unfortunately affect me on a daily basis, and I am sure I am not alone, I didn't realise

how much I relied on these occasional glances to keep me going, they used to cheer me up, remind me how sensual woman can be (after hrs in an office packed full of spitful, horrible women, and going home to my partner who just has no interest in me or sex at all).

I used to arrive at work with a bit of adrenaline A pencil skirt and seamed nylons (a regular spotting in the 80s and 90s) even tights, would really make a difference to my day and my whole outview on life, even if just for 5 mins.

 

So sorry for the rant and if I have been sexist or offended anyone, but it really has gone bad.

 

I wish I had an opaque tights and shorts fetish, I really do.  I also realise I should probably get some CBT counselling to help me deal with the fact I will probably NEVER see a stocking top again!

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All is not lost my friend!  Just look at all the stockings wearing women we have here!  Have a little faith baby, have a little faith.  The day when you least expect it, you will get a surprise.

 

Don't pay attention to the opinions of people whose opinions are not worth listening to.  That is bringing you down by letting all that negative stuff clutter your mind.  Be positive, you are alive today and today is a gift!  That's why it's called the present!

 

Your day will come and in the mean time have a sit down with your wife and ask why she gave up stockings.  Only a quitter gives up!  Perhaps she did not give up?  What was your part?  Did you ever set her on the bedside and dress her in stockings, garter her up and slip on her shoes and knickers perhaps? Women need special attention especially after being married a long time and getting up in age.  You treat her like the young princess she use to be and in turn you will have a Queen in stockings at your side.  I'd bet my sweet ass/arse on it!  Anything worth doing takes work!  Get on that wagon buddy and give my suggestion a try.  I don't give advice.  I'm not smart enough.  I only pass on what has worked for me.  From The Pages Of The Book Of Susan!

 

Susan

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thanks for the reply - the women here are rare, unique and valuable unfortunately.

 

not going into my wife here now, too long a story, but it's a lost cause. BUT it shouldn't mean

the rest of the female population is.

 

I did search for "stockings" on Flickr, the majority of pics were of men, what does that say!

 

I dread another summer of shorts and opaque tights, and long for the days of pretty summer dresses

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Very interesting observation voyeur and I must say I've always found London to be a great city for sightings of nylon clad ladies and yes indeed a slightly worrying statistic could be emerging I do hope not. On a positive note having lived on a Spanish Island for 11 years I can tell u the % of stocking or even nylon wearers there must have been less than 3% of all ladies a dyer state of affairs!!!!! I don't think we do too badly over here . HAppy sightseeing x

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I concur with what Voyeur is saying, I live in Oz and the sightings a less than zero. I have totally given up, however started wearing myself and enjoying the sight and feel of stockings immensely. I would still love to see the occasional stocking and may do so at weddings, but the day to day joy of wearing is wonderful.

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Hi All:

Boston is still very conservative in many ways so sheer nylons are not dead here yet. Of course, in bad weather it's all pants, leggings and black opaque tights. But on nicer days, the sheers come out along with nice shoes. It's more common for those of us over 50 to wear sheers but it's not uncommon to see the younger ladies wearing sheer hosiery too.

I think Kate Middleton has made wearing sheer nylons fashionable again, hasn't she?

Karen

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After KM wore nude tights there was a brief comeback in the summer last year, it didn't last long though!

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Let's be honest fashion and taste is ever changing. The same can be said of the demise of men wearing suits and ties as to the demise of general hosiery wearing for women.

In Aberdeen I personally believe I am seeing more females wearing hosiery in general however at least 95% of what is being worn are black opaques.

I started a discussion a month or so ago around the perception of low denier hosiery after Mrs SG made a comment about low denier being for 'old ladies'.

Is this actually the case, unfortunately I believe so for a multitude of reasons however there will always be those who choose to dress how they wish and for that alone there will always be females who choose to wear (and look fabulous) in hosiery.

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Same opinion here. I was in Manchester city centre for most of yesterday and saw literally hundreds of women. I counted five that were wearing sheer hosiery. The majority were in black opaques, jeans, leggings or bare legs. To catch sight of a pair of FF seamed nylons in public is a chance-in-a-million these days. Sad for us on here, I know. You need someone like the Duchess of Cambridge to venture out in a pair and it may just kick-start a revival.

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I can only concur: opaques abound and after reading Voyeur's post I have looked more closely at those wearing something sheer. Only one lady was under 30 and she was quite elegant.

But then men's spats and plus fours have also become outmoded.

At least the ladies here fuel my nostalgia for an age when women looked feminine- and sexy!

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You folks need to check out the 'alternative' scenes - plenty of sheer hosiery on display there amongst aficionados of retro/vintage fashions, which includes people of all ages. :)

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I can only concur: opaques abound and after reading Voyeur's post I have looked more closely at those wearing something sheer. Only one lady was under 30 and she was quite elegant.

But then men's spats and plus fours have also become outmoded.

At least the ladies here fuel my nostalgia for an age when women looked feminine- and sexy!

 

Men's spats and plus fours?

 

Ye God's, Mad Kan, you'll be having us in Oxford Bags next and two tone shoes.

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What is alternative scenes?

 

Covers a multitude of sins really, but anything that is not 'mainstream' - and is frequently linked to music.

For example, the goth scene was always good for stockings, as is the burlesque scene which often (from my experience) involves the audience glamming up as much as the performers. There is also a revival in 30s-40s style music, which is being reinvented by a new generation of musicians and enjoyed by people of all ages. Then there are the vintage/retro markets and boutiques which are also selling to all age groups from what I can tell. I met someone who runs a stall in Colchester a few weeks back at an art event. She was sporting seamed nylons and 40s chic, and was probably in her late 20s / early 30s.

Fortunately we are not alone in appreciating the glamour of past times, but you just have to look in the dark corners. ;)

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I can see one positive, a lower birth rate!

 

 

I wonder what effect there would be in Opaque/Cotton tights were illegal, what on earth would women do?

that, and banning nylon from porn, would give us the biggest comeback ever of nylon stockings.

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Remember the science fiction films from the 60s or 70s where all the women wore silver trouser suits ?. I think we can substitute opaque black for silver.

 

As everyone says, you see a lady in sheer nylon now and she stands out a mile - a vision of beauty !

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Greetings there Voyeur.

 

This is part of an old, unending rant reflecting the herd mentality of' the sheep that are not able to formulate an independent thought were one offer them large sums to do so. Much easier to base ones opinions on the mass's which in this case includes one of our collective topics. I do need agree with all expressed which includes using a wide brush. But... there are always going to be a few to choose their own path including those here even should we be minute.  As to the current trends, they are always in flux and the days of the way they were are best as remembrances as even should they occur again, read that as repeat, they will never be the same. Each time frame and line is unique and it is exceedingly rare for any attempting to duplicate any event for it to be "right". Just the way it is for a whole host of reasons left better for a different time as I tend to explain something well past death.

 

Sorry about your lass and her choices. A time ago that was a common thread from both men and women here. Guys whose wives weren't interested and fewer gals whose boyfriends/ husbands were not either. Big World out there and I (along with a many) hold those who do reach a concord with envy. 

 

As to your commute, I've a possible suggestion. I like to read. Don't get much chance to read books as I like to finish what I start. So I read mags and short stories and in copy as I don't know how to work one of those electronic devices that are nice if expensive and another thing one needs to worry about overly- batteries, theft, misplacing, loosing data, ____________(fill in). Consider a book or mag as an I-Pad on paper, where all that is required is sufficient light (as in associated photons) to use. Plus, mags and paperbacks are quite cost effective. 

 

Anyway, I surmise there to many opinions a plenty with this thread...

 

Best, 

Dworkin

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Hey Guys !!! Take the bull by the horns. Buy the women in your life some stockings and the underwear you appreciate. Improve the possibility you will see them yourself , instead of leaving it to someone else. Are you bashful or stingy ?

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Hi Billy.

 

"Hey Guys !!! Take the bull by the horns. Buy the women in your life some stockings and the underwear you appreciate. Improve the possibility you will see them yourself , instead of leaving it to someone else. Are you bashful or stingy ?"

 

Speaking mostly for myself based on personal experiences and from lots posted here and other places (I do mean LOTS),  that works for a few and has though quite sparingly by me. Then again, that's me as I long ago perfected the art of putting square pegs in round holes. The current mindset has most women (indeed most people period) are brainwashed. That includes attitudes about what is worn meant to "entice" and as stated, opinions are based mostly on others bereft of as I like to say the independent thought process. Fashion wags are just that. The current attitude about hosiery and especially stockings is well established with stockings being more relegated to porn and in turn scorn. 

 

I applaud your thought and again express envy to any to find it works. And, Billy, should this be an avenue for you to bear fruit then my extreme compliments and you strike me as one not stingy at all...

 

Enjoy,

Dworkin   

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Hey Dworkin !!     Most of the women I have gifted with lingerie and stockings have worn them. I have explained to them that it is more about how it makes them feel to wear them than it is about someone seeing them wear them. After noticing how sexy they feel while wearing, they have all shared the sight and feel with me. I ALWAYS tell them how great they look in pretty things !!

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Billy boy, take your point and if I am honest I have employed the same tactics with all of my girlfriends who have been more than willing to wear. However there is a massive difference between females who have no issues with wearing for fun in the bedroom \ special occasions compared to general everyday wearing.

Looking around my office at this very minute I count 9 female colleagues, 5 in black opaques, 2 bare legged and 2 in trousers.

Then again, Mrs SG went to work this morning wearing nude Wolford hold ups which was nice!

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Hi Billy.

 

Good Show there. I applaud your approach and add again my envy. Obviously you are not one of those fellows written about in prose, music lyrics and/or other descriptive depictions about not being sensitive. That also fits with the general membership at SHQ as simply being a smashing cut above the average. (I purposely avoided the term "normal" as after all, one of my fav phases is 'Why Be Normal?". And, what IS normal anyway?). My success rate has been far less which probably reflects my manners which may be diplomatic beyond the pale but are lacking in certain critical interpersonal areas. So such is when one has some Vulcan blood... 

 

Sir, keep on keep'in on. You are a fine breath of fresh.

 

All the Best, 

Dworkin

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Hi Billy.

 

Good Show there. I applaud your approach and add again my envy. Obviously you are not one of those fellows written about in prose, music lyrics and/or other descriptive depictions about not being sensitive. That also fits with the general membership at SHQ as simply being a smashing cut above the average. (I purposely avoided the term "normal" as after all, one of my fav phases is 'Why Be Normal?". And, what IS normal anyway?). My success rate has been far less which probably reflects my manners which may be diplomatic beyond the pale but are lacking in certain critical interpersonal areas. So such is when one has some Vulcan blood... 

 

Sir, keep on keep'in on. You are a fine breath of fresh.

 

All the Best, 

Dworkin

 

Oh, I don't know, old son. What about 'Stringbean'?

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Hi Tony.

 

Your memory is long.

 

Just for the rest, I once had a long term affair with a gal with that nickname and there are probably pics still in the Gallery. Nice lass but alas, going back to my propensity for making things fit that shouldn't it was never meant to be. Her idea of classic elegance was ironed blue jeans. The concepts about anything here (long before here existed) would have been (and were quite) lost as there was a very low appreciation. Another lass,my number two was much a different story, one I posted eons ago here that may still be in archive (Then There Was Sue). She has not been with us for decades now. As admitted, I am the proverbial misfit, always have been and expect always to be and considering my particular time line I've had a long time to come to that realization.

 

As to Stringbean (so named as she was tall and lean) I long a ago strived, often far beyond logic or reason to make things work and such was that. This yes is counter to that which I profess now and that was many turns ago. Some of us change with time. I simply am one that never quite got things proper in a few important areas, never found what I was looking for and that happens. I am at peace with that. One quality I do apparently possess: I am able to assist others in quests that I am not able to myself. Said another way, there are those that can help others yet lack the ability to do the same for themselves. As to the lass you've mentioned, she found a much more compatible Leo, went on to make more from their union and I am only hoping they have been happy in and on multiple levels ever since. 

 

Tony, you have seen some pixels that in themselves present a nice presentation, even should they have been Polarlewds (what I like to call the old Polaroids- Insta Porn) and pics may have a thousand words and those may still, it's just that story was not to be much more than pics. At least between us.  

 

Folks, especially those that have not been on here awhile, this is a bit as an inside story and apologies should this be alien to the most, it is that which goes back long and perhaps should have been addressed on a more personal level. One of the easiest things in Life is to make mistakes. That day that I quit making them I'm either in a coma or dead.

 

All the Best, 

Dworkin

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My experiences are similar in terms of what I see in different places too. Its rare to see anything other than opaques.

 

Just to depress me further, I listened into a conversation at work about what to wear on legs and I could not resist asking why they did not consider the thiner see through type (eg 7 to 20 denier) and all the women from aged 19 to 50 (no one over that age) berated me as knowing nothing about fashion.

 

In short, their consensus was loads of fake tan was preferable to any type of nylon- even in Scotland in March.

 

In all seriousness, if you want to see nice legs in stockings/tights, you might have more luck going to a CD/TV night out.

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Perhaps it has to do with the aging population?

As women head into their 40s and 50s several things happen.

They develop veins in the legs which heavier tights can hide but not sheer nylons. Plus they are warmer

Wearing high heels for long periods becomes more difficult.

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I've heard it said, that in the fashion world "everything old becomes new again." Let's hope that's true and that it happens soon.

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